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13:00:36 From Amrita Choudhury : Hello Everyone
13:00:49 From ali almeshal : Hi Amrita
13:01:11 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome, All.
13:01:11 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Hello everyone!
13:01:20 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Hi everyone
13:01:34 From Roberto : Hi all
13:01:47 From Roberto : Belated Earster greetings
13:01:59 From Roberto : Easte
13:02:05 From Roberto : Easter
13:02:15 From Roberto : I will get it right sooner or later
13:02:28 From Judith Hellerstein : sorry i was late.
13:02:38 From Judith Hellerstein : was on an earlier call
13:03:04 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Happy Easter, @Roberto!-)
13:03:08 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : and all!
13:03:27 From Barrack Otieno : Hi everyone
13:03:40 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : So they claim "thousands of members"
13:03:47 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I think that is perhaps conservative in some Regions
13:03:48 From Roberto : Hi Natalia. Your Easter is next week, or am I mistaken?
13:04:21 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Right, Roberto! But I love celebrate twice-)
13:04:55 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : in APAC it is often large #'s of ALS Members *But* of course they are not all interested in ICANN world even in the IT issues ones like ISOC CHapters
13:06:51 From Roberto : Siavash, from Iran, was an example
13:07:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Not insignficant
13:07:21 From Judith Hellerstein : do you have Isoc DC on the list
13:07:26 From Judith Hellerstein : they are a member
13:07:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I am all good with the text
13:08:59 From Roberto : In any case the list will change all the time
13:12:55 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : @Alp - How many other organisation members does NCSG have. just out of interest
13:13:30 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Evidence is always my preferred basis for decision :-)
13:13:33 From Judith Hellerstein : can you post the link to this list in the chat
13:13:49 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : It does seem at first blush that many ALSes in LACRALO, APRALO, AFRALO - whats the total of # ALSes that are involved in NCSG, NPOC et al ?
13:13:49 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Thanks Alan
13:15:22 From Amrita Choudhury : seems ok
13:16:02 From Amrita Choudhury : agree with regular too
13:16:57 From Nadira Al Araj : Yes, better off without time reference
13:18:16 From Judith Hellerstein : I know I am on twice but had to start the call on the iPad so do not want to lose the previous chat so am on twice but only have audio on one
13:19:53 From David Mackey : @Judith I know how you feel. I have audio from my first Zoom session that crashed. I don’t want to change anything in case the call drops.
13:20:31 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : That might be a task for O&E and maybe metrics to figure out
13:20:37 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : I believe we can capture interaction
13:20:52 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : Metrics WG comes into action
13:20:56 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : for example how many persons click on the link in the "document"
13:21:25 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : @Dev, bit.ly can measure click rates
13:21:31 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : "document" could be a link to a resource
13:21:31 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Perhaps there should be a link or reference to what Alan has mentioned to another relevant section of the document, to reinforce what is being said here.
13:21:35 From Heidi Ullrich : The capacity building WG might also be involved with this effort - to assign coaches or an Ambassador to further engage an interested ALS members.
13:21:45 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : this can be used to measure reach of the document or link
13:22:38 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : I think we can create a step by step process with WG that are responsible for each tast
13:22:43 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : *tast
13:22:50 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : *task
13:23:03 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : Yes re: surveying persons after - although this could be fatiguing to als members having to keep answering questions If not done carefully
13:23:50 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : We can measure outreach based on clicks
13:24:49 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : Engagement can be measured when working on documents online with certain assumptions - these metrics are available when using google docs for instance
13:25:16 From Judith Hellerstein : I think this is a good idea
13:25:51 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Agree, good to invite more ALS`s members to these webinars
13:26:01 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : Yes re: Heidi has said
13:27:30 From Heidi Ullrich : @Dev, we’ll add an AI for Even, you and I re welcome webinars.
13:27:38 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : great
13:29:58 From David Mackey : six months is good
13:29:59 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : 6 months is good
13:30:11 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : 6 month
13:30:19 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : months*
13:31:12 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : 6 months is good
13:31:15 From ali almeshal : agree with 6 month
13:32:29 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : @Dev - just check their web site.
13:32:56 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : I have included these in our website already
13:33:26 From Justine Chew : @Ed - I think it's more a question of who will check.
13:33:55 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : Admin should check
13:33:56 From Barrack Otieno : Six months is reasonable to me as well
13:34:08 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : Every ALS has a point of contact which is one of the requirements
13:34:14 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : @Justine: staff
13:35:05 From Nadira Al Araj : Why it is our responsibility
13:35:52 From Nadira Al Araj : It is up to ALSes to increase their membership
13:36:03 From Justine Chew : So maybe ALS reporting at best, and a random audit by At-Large staff at worst?
13:36:34 From Justine Chew : What Cheryl said.
13:37:06 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes that is the implementation of the new criteria part of the program @Alan
13:38:57 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : what page are we?
13:39:23 From David Mackey : I agree Alan
13:39:48 From Justine Chew : @Alan, so what is the consequence of if an ALS does not do all the above?
13:40:57 From Judith Hellerstein : Are we going to revise the application and the whole process
13:45:36 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : I don't think the ALS process is cumbersome - its the indivduals applications that's inconsistent
13:46:35 From Nadira Al Araj : yes good point about privacy
13:46:44 From Evin Erdoğdu : +1
13:48:29 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : The issue regarding due diligience can be solved by having such info on a protected part of the wiki
13:48:42 From Judith Hellerstein : Isoc sends the names out but not the numbers
13:48:50 From Nadira Al Araj : the application is sent to the mailing list in APRALO
13:50:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : a .22c solution is pretty strong argument even then @Alan
13:51:25 From Roberto : Maybe I am missing something but what is the problem in having parts of the application being public and parts that remain confidential? I don’t think that a RALO needs to know the phone number of an applicant ALS in order to provide their agreement.
13:52:34 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Judith we are not ISOC nor do we attract ony those types of entities that are interested or involved in ISOC, but it is a point you have already made we also looked at the time of how other similar groups treated these issues IEEE IETF groups etc.,
13:52:58 From Nadira Al Araj : +1 Roberto
13:53:07 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We di used to publish parts of the original application from ALSes that changed I beleive
13:53:21 From Roberto : @alan - understood. I understand that there is work to do, just wanted to say that there is no unsurmountable roadblock
13:53:30 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Support Roberto`s opinion
13:53:40 From Heidi Ullrich : Thanks, All.
13:54:05 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : @Alan.. can we see a cleaner copy of the document to read through, from here?
13:55:54 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : It is difficult to identify what has been covered and what not when you are trying to find it among all the edits.
13:56:13 From Judith Hellerstein : +1 Maureen
13:56:26 From Heidi Ullrich : There will also be work with the At-Large Ambassadors similar to this.
13:56:37 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : Need to move to another meeting...
13:56:46 From David Mackey : see you soon Eduardo
13:56:56 From Judith Hellerstein : Yes. see you soon
13:57:41 From David Mackey : Bye All
13:57:42 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye
13:57:42 From herb.waye : take care everyone
13:57:44 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Thanks Alan
13:57:44 From ali almeshal : by all
13:57:45 From Amrita Choudhury : Thanks
13:57:49 From Roberto : Bye
13:57:49 From Barrack Otieno : Bye
13:57:49 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : Take care all
13:57:56 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : thanks all