AC Chat SPEC11 - 16 December 2015

 Aysegul Tekce: (12/16/2015 20:55) Good morning, good afternoon, good evening! Welcome to “Security Framework Drafting Team Meeting” being held on 16 December 2015 Wednesday.The meeting will start at 19.00 UTC
  Aysegul Tekce: (20:55) I would like to remind you all to please state your names before speaking for transcription purposes. Thank you!
  Theo Geurts RrSG: (20:58) G'evening everyone
  Nick Shorey - UK GAC: (20:59) Hi all
  Freida .sky: (21:02) G
  Freida .sky: (21:02) Good Evening all
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (21:04) Hello Everyone
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (21:05) it does appear to be .. the message flashed up.
  Jeff Neuman (Valideus): (21:18) We are going to need to provide separate diagrams for the brand TLDs for this section
  Jeff Neuman (Valideus): (21:20) There are some circumstances where the registry directly has a contract with the registrant especially where there are eligibility requirements
  Nick Shorey - UK GAC: (21:20) @Jeff good point
  Theo Geurts RrSG: (21:21) correct Jeff
  Nick Shorey - UK GAC: (21:21) would definitely be helpful to understand the difference in such situations
  Alan Woods (Rightside) 2: (21:24) wil do! :)
  Alan Woods (Rightside) 2: (21:24) *will
  Theo Geurts RrSG: (21:25) can do
  Nick Shorey - UK GAC: (21:32) what about "misuse" as a more appropriate term in place of "abuse" and "malicious behaviour"?
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (21:36) <Note> obligations for Registries in terms of faster reaction e.t.c. come with price, and it has to be compensated ...
  Yasmin Omer - Neustar: (21:38) Hi Nick! That's a good suggestion and thank you.
  Yasmin Omer - Neustar: (21:38) Thanks Maxim
  Stephanie Duchesneau - Google Registry: (21:38) we have some concerns around "misuse" that it would encapsulate thigs like the content of a website that aren't appropriately in a registry's proper scope of enforcement
  Alan Woods (Rightside) 2: (21:39) i agree with stephanie on this have to be careful there.
  Nick Shorey - UK GAC: (21:40) @Stephanie - Helpful advice thank you
  Jeff Neuman (Valideus): (21:40) Stephanie - I think that could apply to abuse or malicious use as well.  Perhaps we define it more clearly and then i guess it wouldnt matter which term we use
  Stephanie Duchesneau - Google Registry: (21:41) yeah, agreed that it will probably require a clarification regardless of what we use
  Stephanie Duchesneau - Google Registry: (21:54) one conversation i would like to have when this document is a bit more fully baked is how the registry and registrar frameworks fit together
  Stephanie Duchesneau - Google Registry: (21:54) considering in many (most) instances registries will be working through registrars as part of mitigation
  Alan Woods (Rightside) 2: (21:57) Thank you all! :)
  Theo Geurts RrSG: (21:57) thamks, happy holidays all
  Alexa Raad: (21:57) thanks
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (21:57) bye all
  Stephanie Duchesneau - Google Registry: (21:57) thanks yasmin and all!
  Nick Shorey - UK GAC: (21:57) thanks everyone
  Yoshiro Yoneya (JPRS): (21:57) Thank you Yasmin and all
  Sean Baseri: (21:57) thanks everyone
  Freida .sky: (21:58) Thanks all , good night