AC Chat SPEC11 - 14 January 2016

  Fabien Betremieux: (1/14/2016 19:51) Hello Everyone, welcome to our meeting of the Security Framework Drafting Team. We will be starting shortly.
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (19:57) Hello Everyone
  Theo Geurts: (19:58) hello all
  Freida Tallon Sky: (20:02) Happy New year All
  Crystal Ondo: (20:02) yes, will reconnect audio
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:09) Analysis and Response
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:09) so, "to Anallyze and Responde"
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (20:10) Monitor is a strong word and might need to be replaced
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (20:11) for the 'receipt and response' perhaps?
  Richard Roberto (Google): (20:12) protect is worse than monitor
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (20:12) Protection is a paid service
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (20:12) agreed
  Freida Tallon Sky: (20:14)  If the wording is changed it will need to be clearly defined and qualified in the document to ensure that it does not become cumbersome  to registries
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (20:16) agree with jim on that .. it comes accross as absolute.
  Freida Tallon Sky: (20:17) Also agree with Jim , please add "if applicable "
  Stephanie Duchesneau - Google Registry: (20:18) +1 Allan
  Crystal Ondo (Donuts): (20:20) Good comment, Jon.  Thank you.
  Theo Geurts: (20:21) agreed
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (20:21) i'm ok eith that too.. good catch really! :)
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (20:21) *with
  Crystal Ondo (Donuts): (20:23) We may be fine with change.  As Fabien mentioned, the specifics on the "how" is also under development with the ICANN guidelines
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:26) Minor point - rather than say "ideally" in Section 3.3, how about just say it should be done.
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (20:29) I am in a disagreement about 3.3, not all registries have 24h analyst team, it costs a lot
  Richard Roberto (Google): (20:30) The term "malicious" keeps showing up but that implies something about motivation we an't possibly determine through any analysis I can think of
  Richard Roberto (Google): (20:31) ok
  Crystal Ondo (Donuts): (20:33) Would you be willing to share a list of 'preferred' agencies / groups?
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (20:34) I think it is relevant to a particular country
  Stephanie Duchesneau - Google Registry: (20:35) there was some willingness on the part of LEA at the dublin meeting to compile some of this as a resource for registries, i don't know if anything has come of it since
  Richard Roberto (Google): (20:49) abusive
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:49) malicious is an adjective
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:50) abusive is the corresponding adjective
  Stephanie Duchesneau - Google Registry: (20:50) i dont think a qualifier is needed here at all
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:50) i like abusive though - it has a more deliberate negative connotation
  Sean Baseri - Neustar: (20:50) agree on abusive
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:51) I meant I like "malicious" not abusive.
  Richard Roberto (Google): (20:51) not all abuse is malicious
  Richard Roberto (Google): (20:51) not all malicious behavior rises to the level of abuse
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (20:52) i would suggest inserting "written "where possible""
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:52) QUick comment for section 5.3 coming up.
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:53) If notifications are written the responses should be too.
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:53) Documentation for the record for the record.
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (20:53) terminate looks too hard ... we are not police after all
  Jim Galvin (Afilias): (20:54) agree on terminate
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (20:58) not too hot on 'prevent' either!  Reactive vs active... liability remains an issue for registries in proactive review
  Crystal Ondo (Donuts): (20:59) We haven't discussed inclusion of these techincal matters, but I am open to raising it with our tech folks
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (20:59) +1 @Alan
  Stephanie Duchesneau - Google Registry: (20:59) have to drop, thanks all
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (21:01) no problem
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (21:02) +1 Crystal
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (21:03) tight ... but we possibly could.
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (21:03) RySG has few important tech public comments to prepare ... next week is going to be quite busy
  Alan Woods (Rightside): (21:05) thanks guys!
  Theo Geurts: (21:05) thanks all
  Sean Baseri - Neustar: (21:06) thanks all
  Yoshiro Yoneya (JPRS): (21:06) thank you all!
  Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): (21:06) bye all
  Freida Tallon Sky: (21:06) cheerio all
  Artthawit Hung: (21:06) thanks all