00:15:52 Alejandra Reynoso - ccNSO Council: Wiki:https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=320405687 00:17:06 Jordan Carter (cncl): I apologise that I’m on transit for the first 40 mins 00:17:44 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: NP Jordan. Yesterday was my transit day. Today is my jet lag day ;-) 00:20:22 Olga Cavalli: Sorry for being late 00:20:25 Olga Cavalli: Hello all 00:21:39 Pablo Rodriguez: Greetings Olga 00:21:56 Pablo Rodriguez: Greetings all 00:22:18 Tatiana Tropina ccNSO Councillor NCA: Reacted to "Greetings all" with 👋 00:22:39 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: Glad you made it off the beach Pablo ;-) 00:22:48 Pablo Rodriguez: Reacted to "Glad you made it off..." with 😂 00:24:59 Olga Cavalli: Oh just realized meeting was at the wrong time in my calendar😩 00:25:43 Sean Copeland - ccNSO Council - nic VI: I like it 00:27:35 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: +1 Nick. 00:27:50 Sean Copeland - ccNSO Council - nic VI: Reacted to "+1 Nick." with 👍🏻 00:28:22 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: Volunteer burnout is a real issue. 00:30:31 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: +1 Nick. We are already at the "one louder" level (11) with respect to volunteer contributions. 00:31:45 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: Reacted to "Glad you made it off..." with 😂 00:35:11 Sean Copeland - ccNSO Council - nic VI: Yes AJ, this would be so practical to use one of the tools we have 00:35:30 Sean Copeland - ccNSO Council - nic VI: Appreciate the logistics for Kigali might be tough though 00:35:34 Peter Koch | Councillor | DENIC eG: “Until we run out of gaps” hopefully will not result in gap-hunting … 00:35:57 Pablo Rodriguez: Reacted to "“Until we run out of..." with 👍 00:37:35 Jordan Carter (cncl): A continuous eye on the framework in future in some low key way would be helpful 00:37:46 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: "Gap-hunting" --this needs to go into the ICANN Glossary! 00:37:54 Jordan Carter (cncl): And implies some standing group to do so 00:38:21 Pablo Rodriguez: +1 Jordan 00:38:47 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: +1 Pablo and Jordan. 00:41:35 Pablo Rodriguez: Thanks Joke for your excellent report!! 00:43:06 wafa Dahmani-Ccnso Council: indeed 00:43:11 wafa Dahmani-Ccnso Council: Thanks joke 00:45:12 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: Hopefully they will treat PDP4 with greater respect... ;-) 00:46:18 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: Bart, can you cite the Bylaws that require the Board to consult with the GAC before they consider adoption of a PDP from an SO/AC? 00:52:08 Bart Boswinkel - ICANN Org: You may agree or disagree with it, but the GAC is requested for its opinion in accordance with Section 3.6 (a) (iii) 00:52:40 Bart Boswinkel - ICANN Org: If you would look a the Board correspondence you will not ethos reference 00:56:06 demi: Nick + 1 00:56:21 Pablo Rodriguez: +1 Nick 00:59:01 Chris Disspain - Council: this is madness.. 00:59:07 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: Bart, I am neutral on this actually. I've just never had sorted out where this operational procedure arises from in the Bylaws, given that they have amble opportunity to do so during the policy development process. I just do not see how the Board's behavior squares with Annex B Section 15(a), but I acknowledge there is a loop hole there that one could drive a lorry through. We should take this discussion off-line... '-) 00:59:55 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: +1 Nick 01:00:02 Jordan Carter (cncl): Replying to "Bart, I am neutral o…" For those of us who are never going to look at the bylaws on this, what’s the loophole? 01:05:31 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: Annex B Section 15 (a) "The Board shall meet to discuss the ccNSO Recommendation as soon as feasible after receipt of the Board Report from the Issue Manager, taking into account procedures for Board consideration." The loophole is that "yes, they have to take up any SO/AC policy proposal kicked up to them, but it appears they can bury them at their will." 01:06:01 Bart Boswinkel - ICANN Org: taking into account procedures for Board consideration." 01:06:09 Jordan Carter (cncl): But they’ve never buried anything 01:06:50 Bart Boswinkel - ICANN Org: It is part of procedures for Board consideration, as prescribed by the Bylaws 01:07:10 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: With all due respect Jordan, the Review Mechanism has been in their lap for >300+ days now. 01:07:19 Bart Boswinkel - ICANN Org: i.e Section 3.6 01:07:55 Tatiana Tropina ccNSO councillor NCA: All, I am sorry if I disappear — in transit from Manchester to Sheffield and internet connection in the UK is not the best I must say. 01:08:07 Claudia Ruiz - ICANN Org: Reacted to "All, I am sorry if I..." with 👍🏼 01:08:15 Bart Boswinkel - ICANN Org: And other procedures 01:08:52 Nick Wenban-Smith (Nominet): Replying to "All, I am sorry if I..." outrageous, they do say it's grim up north 01:09:35 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: I'm not banging my bass drum about this. Nigel appears to be but I am not involved in his efforts. I'm just irritate, but I think Jordan that we can get this sorted soonest. 01:10:23 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: Looks good AJ 01:10:34 Jordan Carter (cncl): Reacted to "All, I am sorry if I…" with 👍🏼 01:11:21 Jordan Carter (cncl): It ain’t inconsistent to both be annoyed at the time taken but also to acknowledge it isn’t being done in bad faith. 01:11:23 Chris Disspain - Council: I am VERY keen to be involved in this pilot review if we patricipate 01:12:06 Tatiana Tropina ccNSO councillor NCA: Reacted to "outrageous, they do …" with 😭 01:12:11 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: Jordan you have captured my feelings about it all exactly. 01:12:31 Sean Copeland - ccNSO Council - nic VI: Replying to "It ain’t inconsisten..." The art of the possible 01:13:16 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: I have to drop for another call. Bye all! 01:13:22 Jordan Carter (cncl): Stephen - the way you talk about it definitely conveys you think there’s bad faith involved. I’m pleased to see you say that’s not your feeling so maybe have a little ponder about how you express your strong feelings about it .. ;) 01:13:34 Olga Cavalli: How will the group be formed? How many Inmean 01:14:24 Stephen Deerhake - .as ccNSO Councillor: I have to drop off for another call. Bye all! 01:15:35 Jordan Carter (cncl): I’m also potentially interested in this review 01:18:52 Joke Braeken - ICANN Org: A news announcement regarding the newcomer webinar will be posted soon! 01:19:05 Pablo Rodriguez: Reacted to "A news announcement ..." with 👍 01:20:05 Joke Braeken - ICANN Org: Agenda ccTLD News at ICANN80   PART 1 (Welcome Session – final 30 min.): Tuesday, 11 June 2024 | 10:45-12:15 (08:45-10:15 UTC) Session chair: Everton T. Rodrigues (.br) Collaboration and Partnerships in the ccTLD Landscape,  Hildah Maina (.ke) Introducing "A Technical Community Coalition for Multistakeholderism”, Jodi Anderson (.nz)   PART 2 (ccTLD News Session): Tuesday, 11 June 2024 | 10:45-12:15 (08:45-10:15 UTC) Session chair: Joel Karubiu (AFTLD) Digitization of South African Public Schools with school.za 2nd level domains, Plantina Tsholofelo Mokone (.za) Large scale of community projects of a small registry, Dejan Djukic (.rs .срб) Driving Digital Innovation: .ng ccTLD Registry Initiatives, Busayo Balogun (.ng) Ten years of broadband measurement: lessons from Canada, Charles Noir (.ca) Opening up the .eu Abuse Prevention and Early Warning System to the ccTLD community, Hans Seeuws ( .eu) 01:21:50 Joke Braeken - ICANN Org: ICANN80 Links to Bookmark Now   ccNSO Schedule https://community.icann.org/x/GQBkEw ccNSO Session Highlights https://community.icann.org/x/wYCfEw  Tech Day https://community.icann.org/x/OgBkEw 01:24:06 Jenifer Lopez: See You all!