00:19:55 Kimberly Carlson: Welcome to today’s ccPDP4 DES SG on 12 October at 13:00 UTC. 00:20:19 hadia Elminiawi: Thanks Jaap 00:21:06 Javier Rúa-Jovet: Hi all 00:35:45 Peter Koch: I think we need a footnote to explain the use of the term “territory” - cf the discussion on ccnso-members 00:42:59 hadia Elminiawi: clear thanks Bart 00:43:16 Javier Rúa-Jovet: Great info 00:47:44 Javier Rúa-Jovet: I presume Jaap’s great presentation will be @ wiki- 00:50:22 Kimberly Carlson: @Javier, the shortened deck will be loaded to the wiki shortly: https://community.icann.org/x/DQeHCg 00:50:38 Anil Kumar Jain: Thanks Kim 00:50:50 Kimberly Carlson: Full press from two weeks ago: https://community.icann.org/x/jQCHCg 00:50:54 Kimberly Carlson: You’re welcome 00:59:55 Sarmad Hussain: Also, can there be a trigger event which can impact a variant TLD even if it does not impact the original string? 01:06:59 hadia Elminiawi: Trigger the process 01:11:44 Peter Koch: Point is if a country falls apart (or territories are “re-shuffled”, as in the AN example), the trigger would fire, but it would make sense to evaluate a re-association with one of the “successor” codes, even if those are not “successors” in the legal sense 01:11:53 Jaap Akkerhuis: The standard says: 7.4 Deletion from the list of country names 01:12:55 Svitlana Tkachenko: I think it’s item 2 01:13:44 hadia Elminiawi: fine 01:15:44 Svitlana Tkachenko: If two different managers run ccTLD and IDN-TLD, then the process of retirement should be split into different processes. 01:16:35 Javier Rúa-Jovet: O, Kim, missed your answer. Thx! 01:16:50 Peter Koch: 3166-1 is based on the “country names”, not the codes, while we always circulate around the codes. “splitting” would be a deletion as per 7.4 and two additions as per 7.3, so we’re struggling with expressing real world scenarios in 3166-1 terminology 01:17:52 hadia Elminiawi: +1 Bart 01:18:51 Jaap Akkerhuis: If you look AN in the IANA database its status is INACTIVE 01:20:13 Peter Koch: retired as in 01:20:43 Peter Koch: same for TP 01:21:09 Peter Koch: CS results in a page not found 01:22:02 Jaap Akkerhuis: YU is also unknown by IANA 01:22:21 Javier Rúa-Jovet: Thx 2 all- great meeting! 01:22:28 Javier Rúa-Jovet: Ciao! 01:22:29 hadia Elminiawi: Thank you all - bye for today 01:22:37 hadia Elminiawi: see you in November 01:22:45 hadia Elminiawi: and in ICANN meetings 01:22:55 Pitinan Kooarmornpatana: Thank you all