00:23:45	Kimberly Carlson:	Hi everyone, welcome to today’s GRC 2.0 teleconference on 4 October at 14:00 UTC.
00:27:01	Bart Boswinkel:	Link to the Jamboard
00:27:02	Bart Boswinkel:	https://jamboard.google.com/d/148LI6av2IYekHhPstpB0jfnX8fkcjGH-dcP9ThTrr6k/viewer?f=0
00:30:58	Bart Boswinkel:	Current purpose The purpose of the ccNSO Guidelines Review Committee (GRC) is to review the current guidelines and to ascertain whether they reflect current practices and working methods, identify potential gaps, and based on this analysis propose changes to the current guidelines to the Council. In addition, the GRC should advise and assist the ccNSO in matters relating to governance of the ccNSO
00:36:37	David McAuley (Verisign):	I agree with that, Katrina, not just councilors
00:39:10	Sean Copeland:	Según, Svitlana or Alyssa, I would love to hear from you guys
00:39:13	David McAuley (Verisign):	I think that is an interesting idea that Stephen floated - maybe a liaison from RySG as a group that also faces registry issues
00:40:23	Alyssa Quinn:	We have a good, regular meeting cadence
00:40:41	David McAuley (Verisign):	+1 Alyssa
00:40:55	Stephen Deerhake:	+1 Alyssa as well...
00:41:06	Segun Akano:	We also full backing of ccNSo
00:41:14	Katrina Sataki:	What do you mean +1??? Last time you complained about too many meetings :)
00:41:49	David McAuley (Verisign):	regular - need not be every two weeks, maybe once per month but regular pace
00:42:32	David McAuley (Verisign):	Good pointg by Sean - subgroups woul dlikely work well here
00:42:40	David McAuley (Verisign):	likely
00:42:47	Stephen Deerhake:	+1 on increased subgroup usage.  This is working well where it's been employed to date...
00:43:08	Stephen Deerhake:	Yes Bart.
00:43:25	Alyssa Quinn:	what we do well: picking apart documents :)
00:43:37	Stephen Deerhake:	+1 Alyssa!
00:43:40	Segun Akano:	diversity of the knowledge of members
00:46:33	David McAuley (Verisign):	explore maybe some sort of a relationship with RySG - both groups are registries and they face common issues
00:46:48	Segun Akano:	changing operational environment presents opportunities to remain relavant
00:47:31	David McAuley (Verisign):	I must leave at 30 minutes past the hour, regretfully
00:47:32	Katrina Sataki:	@David:  the way I see it, GRC is not rying to solve any registry related issues, We are solving ccNSO related issues (processes, procedures, etc).
00:50:10	Segun Akano:	engagements/interations  with next generation
00:51:02	Svitlana Tkachenko:	+1 Katrina (subgroups)
00:52:15	David McAuley (Verisign):	Thanks all, i have to go
00:52:21	Sean Copeland:	Thanks David
00:52:24	Alyssa Quinn:	Blue sky: I suppose this is sort of a "gap" to fill. Serving as a repository for not only guidelines as they pertain to implementation of ICANN bylaws or ccNSO administrative procedures, but also guidelines in the sense of "best practices" for ccCTLDs. Some of this happens through the regional groups (CENTR, etc) but is there a way to more formally bring that to the wider ccNSO?
00:52:25	Katrina Sataki:	Thank you, David! Bye!
00:59:22	Stephen Deerhake:	A more active advisory role to the Council...
00:59:36	Joke Braeken:	Have we lost audio?
00:59:45	Segun Akano:	Go from what is existing to what is new
01:00:21	Segun Akano:	innovative thinking
01:01:10	Katrina Sataki:	@Stephen: if we consider having Councillors on the GRC as strength then giving them advisory role feels like giving them too much power, doesn't it?
01:04:51	Svitlana Tkachenko:	system of indicators how guidelines serve the community.
01:07:41	Stephen Deerhake:	@Katrina:   Hmmm...  An interesting point, but I don't think so.  As things currently stand, the cumulative power of a particular Council member at the end of the day is really the summation of their involvement in Council/PDP/WG affairs.
01:11:00	Stephen Deerhake:	Metrics for tracking "success" could well be very difficult to envision/quantify.
01:11:43	Katrina Sataki:	especially, if we do not define what "success" is :)