14:00:33 From Brenda Brewer to Everyone:
	Welcome to the IRP-IOT Call on 28 September 2021 @ 19:00 UTC. This meeting is recorded.  Kindly state your name when speaking for the record and have your phones and microphones on mute when not speaking.  Thank you!
14:01:08 From Susan Payne to Everyone:
	we'll start in a minute or two everyone
14:19:47 From Flip Petillion to Everyone:
	Hello - Sorry for being late
14:20:22 From Susan Payne to Everyone:
	welcome Flip
14:21:56 From Kurt Pritz to Everyone:
	Torture the complaint
14:25:43 From Susan Payne to Everyone:
	but RFR also covers: One or more Board or Staff actions or inactions that contradict ICANN's Mission, Commitments, Core Values and/or established ICANN policy(ies);
14:26:05 From Susan Payne to Everyone:
	so it is an allegation of violation of Bylaws
14:27:46 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
	I think Sam makes a fair point here - we could take this into account when we decide what number of days/months go into the brackets we now have for time to file.
14:40:59 From Malcolm Hutty to Everyone:
	Grounds must have changed to add inconsistency with Mission, Commitments, Core Values: the Commitments and Core Values didn't even exist in that form prior to the new Bylaws
14:42:04 From Kurt Pritz to Everyone:
	If there is no tolling, would that end the “tortured complaints” or are they in some way barred now?
14:43:06 From Malcolm Hutty to Everyone:
	It is more the lack of tolling that causes tortured complaints. If you toll time, people could bring the real complaint instead of constructing one around a failure to correct something you're no longer allowed to challenge
14:57:30 From Sam Eisner to Everyone:
	CEPs come with obligations to participate in a conversation
14:57:50 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
	in good faith with possible penalty for falling short
15:00:31 From Sam Eisner to Everyone:
	I have to drop.  Thanks for the good conversation.  Looking forward to more discussions later.
15:01:10 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
	I feel we are on the cusp of a quasi Occam's razor moment, possibly entering a thicket where a simpler solution might be possible\
15:08:31 From Bernard Turcotte to Everyone:
	time check - 20 minutes left in the call
15:08:38 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
	Interesting to hear Malcolm recall CCWG Accountability workstream one - amazing to think it was five years ago when it ended. a very interesting two anda half years
15:16:00 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
	That makes sense to me, Susan
15:16:08 From Flip Petillion to Everyone:
	OK Susan
15:16:56 From Flip Petillion to Everyone:
	Bye !
15:17:42 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
	Thanks Susan, Bernie, Brenda and all
15:17:49 From Bernard Turcotte to Everyone:
	bye all