07:55:22 From Joke Braeken to Everyone : Hello Yonglin and Angela! Welcome 07:55:43 From Joke Braeken to Angela Matlapeng - .bw(Direct Message) : (I have muted your microphone Angela) 07:55:58 From Angela Matlapeng - .bw to Everyone : hello Yoke and Yonglin 07:56:11 From Angela Matlapeng - .bw to Joke Braeken(Direct Message) : its alright. ive sorted it out now 07:56:32 From YONGLIN to Everyone : Hi 07:56:38 From Joke Braeken to Angela Matlapeng - .bw(Direct Message) : Ok :) Was not sure if it was on purpose or not. I heard faint speaking 07:56:56 From Joke Braeken to Everyone : Hello Ai-Chin 07:57:06 From ai-chin Lu to Everyone : hi Joke 08:00:06 From Angela Matlapeng - .bw to Joke Braeken(Direct Message) : Oooh. Yea, I had two headsets connected and one was far from me so I couldn't hear sounds from the zoom on the one I was hearing. 08:01:37 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : Hello everyone ! 08:01:57 From Joke Braeken to Everyone : Hi All! Welcome to today’s IGLC meeting 08:01:58 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : Good evening! 08:02:14 From Adriana Lazzaroni (it) to Everyone : Good morning! 08:02:26 From ai-chin Lu to Everyone : good afternoon 08:02:31 From Tanya Forsyuk to Everyone : Hi everyone! 08:02:51 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : Hello everyone 08:08:18 From AnnalieseWilliams to Everyone : Hello from Australia - just wanted to say how much I appreciate everyone's flexibility in having a rotating time zone 08:11:32 From Joke Braeken to Javier Rúa-Jovet(Direct Message) : Thanks for joining at this awful hour for you Javier 08:12:40 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Joke Braeken(Direct Message) : It would have looked bad if I started my IGLC life by missing the call! 08:12:44 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Joke Braeken(Direct Message) : Thxxx 08:23:48 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : Hindsight is 20/20 I think had I been thinking about the IGLC in terms of what we did the day before and maybe we had communicated back and forth on it, it may have made both sessions flow nicely together. Barbara, maybe something to think about in the future in terms of the MPC. Can a thematic approach be taken on virtual sessions, or is that overly complex? 08:24:10 From Sean Copeland to Joke Braeken(Direct Message) : Is the sound warbly, or is that just me? 08:24:11 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : I agree with Barbara, we would need to know what are the expected results 08:24:54 From YONGLIN to Everyone : Agree with Barbara. The meeting was inspiring regarding some points people raised but some conclusions or result were missing. 08:26:01 From Joke Braeken to Sean Copeland(Direct Message) : Hi Sean. I think the sound is fine? 08:26:18 From Sean Copeland to Joke Braeken(Direct Message) : Ok I am going to reboot, back in a minute 08:28:18 From Barbara Povse to Everyone : @Sean I agree that topic approach is the most successful and at MPC we are trying to shape ccNSO sessions that way, but I’m sure we could try to have The Topic for a ICANN meeting and shape sessions around it. Thanks for the suggestion 08:28:37 From ai-chin Lu to Everyone : if the meeting had more organized, more solid, and more interactive, it could raise the interest of the audience. 08:29:03 From AnnalieseWilliams to Joke Braeken(Direct Message) : Hi Joke - I need to join another call that I couldn't reschedule, but I will rejoin again soon 08:31:12 From Joke Braeken to Sean Copeland(Direct Message) : Sean, Pierre asked you to speak to your comment in the chat. Perhaps you could get in the queue? 08:33:50 From ai-chin Lu to Everyone : I think we need to define what is the position of IGLC during the ICANN time schedule. It is a close meeting or an internal regular meeting but to open to the public or the meeting is prepared for ICANN. If we make sure this point, we can continue taking some action plan if it is needed. 08:50:27 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : Thank you Javier for the comment. This approach of having a voice as CC even from non soveign countries is Indeed very important ! And by the way it really make the difference with GAC on a day to day basis. 08:56:30 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Thx Pierre. I truly believe that it’s very useful to speak about IG and Multistakeholderism in opposition and in contrast to Multilateralism (or worse, unilateralism!). In the later, sovereigns talk to each other and make rules, but in the former -the world we are all trying to build as equal stakeholders in global conversations, an individual’s voice, including a voice from a colony or former colony, is as valid as the voice from a Metropole, a sovereign superpower. This openness is critical as individuals like myself and others usually have few entry points into global policy conversations. 08:58:47 From Barbara Povse to Everyone : Different expertise of IGLC members 08:59:14 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : for example : diversity of the group 08:59:49 From ai-chin Lu to Everyone : information sharing from different region 09:00:04 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : numerfous cctlds involved in local IGF 09:00:36 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Stick my comment above in whichever category it fits! I think is a strength & an opportunity! 09:00:44 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : IGLC members involved in global IGF 09:00:58 From souleymane to Everyone : Internet gouvernance in each region 09:01:20 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : IGLC solidify directly how the ccNSO gives ICANN its international legitimacy 09:01:33 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : Javier, I think your comment is Indeed more on opportunities 09:01:44 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Ok! 09:03:29 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : emphasize ccTLD characteristics and needs 09:03:32 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : bring technical expertise from CCs to the OG talks 09:03:46 From Barbara Povse to Everyone : S: Carefully planning of the sessions: desired results, purpose, … 09:04:18 From YONGLIN to Everyone : Strength: tolerant and open-minded environment for discussion 09:04:27 From Barbara Povse to Everyone : S: thinking of relevant external speakers at IGLC sessions 09:04:51 From Alex Corenthin to Everyone : Participation à l’identité numérique / digital identity 09:05:05 From Barbara Povse to Everyone : Sorry, those were both o :-) 09:05:15 From ai-chin Lu to Everyone : Currently, we have global IGF, Regional IGF...so what is IGLC focus on 09:05:52 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : Yes barbara, I was wondering :-) 09:06:36 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : +1 javier 09:07:18 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : CCs are both from the tech Community and close to governements and public policies 09:07:28 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : (Opportunity) 09:08:33 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : be a reference for other ICANN groups on IG 09:09:05 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : Represent all the geographies 09:09:18 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : I believe the IGLC can be the primary outreach group of the ccNSO 09:09:22 From Barbara Povse to Everyone : A: form a small subgroup in charge of organising IGLC session at public ICANN 09:09:48 From Angela Matlapeng - .bw to Everyone : influence participation from communities at regional and local level 09:10:08 From ai-chin Lu to Everyone : we can get more complete IG related information 09:10:27 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : having requests from CCNSO Council or members to work on topics ( recognition of the group's value) 09:10:41 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : +1 Pierre 09:10:48 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : Propose balanced views on IG 09:12:02 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : Be a place were different points of view can be discussed without direct impact ( cool down the temperature if needed) 09:12:03 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : My main aspiration is meeting all of you in person asap and getting back behind the drum set in GEMS at a f2f meeting! 09:12:21 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : Having a iced beer on the beach 09:12:24 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : :) 09:12:32 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : Maybe under results? 09:12:41 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : I wish we could alltogether ! 09:12:43 From YONGLIN to Everyone : Involve and respect voices of beveloping countries and less developed regions. Especially currently they are 'decided' by the leading countries and stakeholders. 09:13:07 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Yes! Remote multistakeholderism not as good as in person multistakeholderism! 09:15:03 From Angela Matlapeng - .bw to Everyone : increased participation in IGLC issues from cctld managers and 09:15:19 From Alex Corenthin to Everyone : IG Road map for members 09:15:20 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : Provide a multistakeholder output on topics 09:15:43 From Barbara Povse to Everyone : More participants at the sessions 09:15:48 From Adriana Lazzaroni (it) to Everyone : Stimulate and capture the interest of ccTLD managers and community towards IG topics 09:15:52 From ai-chin Lu to Everyone : survey from audience 09:16:00 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : Provide a multistakeholder output on topics 09:16:17 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : satisfaction Survey after IGLC sessions ( with a goal of satisfaction) 09:16:20 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Maybe more specific post session surveys to gage effectiveness ? 09:16:29 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Exactly Pierre 09:16:50 From souleymane to Everyone : Yes pierre 09:17:03 From ai-chin Lu to Everyone : satisfaction survey of participants 09:17:24 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Measure Measure Measure. Data driven decisions. 09:17:27 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : I would think when we are formally contributing to the IGF as a platform for all ccTLD issues 09:17:33 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : Number of solliciations from other consituency to share IGLC work ( like ALAC, GNCO, ICANN Staff working on the topics, GAC, etc...) 09:18:01 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : @ sean, to you have a proposel for IGF ? 09:18:20 From Pierre Bonis. Afnic to Everyone : List and quality of experts and people invited to present durng IGLC meeting, or contribute by writting 09:18:25 From Joke Braeken to Everyone : Let’s not sell the bear’s kin before it is shot :) 09:18:30 From Joke Braeken to Everyone : skin. 09:18:52 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : @Sean (sorry for the typos), call for proposals wil take place soon for this year 09:19:07 From YONGLIN to Everyone : Follow up the main topics concerned and publish a series of outcomes and questions remained. 09:19:26 From Angela Matlapeng - .bw to Everyone : will we perhaps at a later stage have measures of progress specific to the IGLC topics not just the IGLC work in general? 09:20:11 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : Very rich results for the SOAR!! 09:20:30 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : @Marie-Noemie, I monitor it, I find it fascinating. I was on a flight and was sitting beside someone in early days, and I kind of see “social responsibility” in the IGF as sort of a missing area. I know some would have an issue with it in terms of us being technical, but I think it will become increasingly important. In a way it goes to Yonglin’s comments from my POV. 09:20:32 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Agree! Good exercise! 09:20:45 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : Missing area on our side 09:21:41 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : Thanks Sean for th response. CSR could also be a topic for the IGLC :) 09:24:11 From Angela Matlapeng - .bw to Everyone : perhaps we say ccTLD community instead of managers 09:24:35 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Ok 09:25:43 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Fully agree, Pierre 09:26:02 From Adriana Lazzaroni (it) to Everyone : Agree. That’s the point Pierre 09:26:37 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Agree focus is critical 09:27:04 From Abdullah Cemil Akcam (.tr) to Everyone : maybe we should limit ourselves with IG related topics in domain name space 09:28:10 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : Agree with Community. The current text only says "ccNSO" withour mentioning anything else 09:29:12 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : What is missing, from your question Pierre: Activities refer to: DISCUSSIONS, EVENTS, PROCESSES. 09:31:14 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Let’s liase ! 09:31:23 From Barbara Povse to Everyone : Sorry, need to leave for another meeting. It was a very useful excercise 09:32:00 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : Yes I agree, very useful to focus 09:33:59 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Agree Pierre 09:34:06 From Adriana Lazzaroni (it) to Everyone : Agree 09:34:09 From Sean Copeland to Everyone : Agree with that 09:34:15 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : sounds reasonable 09:34:20 From AnnalieseWilliams to Everyone : Sounds good to me 09:34:30 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Very very good call!! Thx to all! Now back to sleep for an hour or two! CIAO! 09:35:01 From Marie-Noemie Marques - ccNSO council to Everyone : Bye bye all !! 09:35:02 From Adriana Lazzaroni (it) to Everyone : Thank you, bye! 09:35:07 From Alex Corenthin to Everyone : Bye 09:35:09 From ai-chin Lu to Everyone : Bye 09:35:14 From YONGLIN to Everyone : Danke! 09:35:19 From Javier Rúa-Jovet to Everyone : Joke is awesome! 09:35:20 From Tanya Forsyuk to Everyone : Thank you! 09:35:20 From AnnalieseWilliams to Everyone : Thanks Joke, thanks Pierre