00:18:05	Joke Braeken:	Hello everyone. Notes today will be taken here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sVJ0FAhLftALUyiPdBOrRJp8hkmg3zhczy8qL8YeLZk/edit?usp=sharing
00:18:51	Kimberly Carlson - ICANN Org:	Welcome to today’s ccPDP4 Subgroup on Variant Management on 11 May at 22:00 UTC.  One apology from Michael.
00:19:33	Kimberly Carlson - ICANN Org:	Attendance will be taken based on those on Zoom.  As a reminder, this call will be recording and posted on the public wiki:  https://community.icann.org/x/8wOlCQ
00:22:30	ai-chin Lu:	block can not resolve
00:22:33	ai-chin Lu:	I thought
00:22:53	ai-chin Lu:	?
00:23:53	Dennis Tan:	Allocatable label —> ok to delegate/activate in the root zone
00:24:15	Dennis Tan:	Blocked label —> must not be activated/delegated
00:25:04	Dennis Tan:	and +1 Sarmard, a blocked label should not be eligible to be applied for
00:27:33	ai-chin Lu:	when we apply, how do we know it is blocked?
00:28:06	Dennis Tan:	Root Zone Label Generation Rules is an algorithm that includes the valid repertoire of “letters”, variant rules and whole label evaluation rules such that it can be used to validate a label that is eligible for the root, and to calculate (generate) its variants labels, each with a disposition value: blocked or allocatable
00:29:25	Dennis Tan:	@ai-chin … that’s implementation but I imagine that’s how it should be implemented
00:29:28	hadia Elminiawi:	Ok so it is part of the rules
00:30:55	ai-chin Lu:	Thank you Dennis
00:31:39	hadia Elminiawi:	Thanks Sarmad understood
00:32:13	Kimberly Carlson - ICANN Org:	Apologies - lost internet.
00:36:28	ai-chin Lu:	who will be formed the script community?
00:37:37	Dennis Tan:	Different script communities are in different stages… many have completed their work… one can review status here https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/lgr-proposals-2015-12-01-en
00:38:50	hadia Elminiawi:	but wouldn't the invalid be considered blocked as well?
00:39:17	Sarmad Hussain:	Invalid is not valid per the script rules
00:39:28	Sarmad Hussain:	So can never be applied for
00:39:34	Pitinan Kooarmornpatana - ICANN org:	@ai-chin, the script community, called Generation Panel for each script was formed by multi-stakeholder for the script, based on the LGR procedure (https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/lgr-procedure-20mar13-en.pdf)
00:39:35	hadia Elminiawi:	@Saramad yes undersdtood
00:46:59	hadia Elminiawi:	So the sub pro recommendation is missing reference to invalid?
00:47:43	Al Sal:	Since it is invalid in every situation, they may ignore it.
00:47:55	Dennis Tan:	@hadia it does not need to.
00:48:36	hadia Elminiawi:	@Dennis this was my initial understanding
00:49:00	Pitinan Kooarmornpatana - ICANN org:	I think the SubPro text “RZ-LGR … must be required for the generation of TLDs” means the label needs to be valid as per rz-lgr. Therefore, already excluded the invalid cases.
00:49:17	Al Sal:	but since it is generated by root zone LGR i think it would be nice to mention that.
00:49:32	Dennis Tan:	@Pitinan, that’s right
00:49:33	Al Sal:	tool
00:49:50	Yuri Takamatsu:	+1 to Alireza
01:15:15	Dennis Tan:	thank you
01:15:17	NIXI India:	Bye
01:15:19	Jaap Akkerhuis:	bye all
01:15:21	hadia Elminiawi:	Thank you bye