12:59:59	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : Wheeeeeeee! I was promoted again!
13:00:14	 From Kimberly Carlson to All panelists : You’re welcome ;)
13:00:27	 From Steve Crocker to All panelists : Me too.  Thanks.
13:01:35	 From Brantly Millegan to All panelists : 👋
13:02:40	 From Kimberly Carlson to All panelists : Welcome to today’s NCAP Discussion Group Teleconference on 5 August at 19:00 UTC. In the interest of time, attendance will be taken based on those on Zoom.  No apologies have been received. As a reminder, all calls are recorded; recordings posted on the public wiki (https://community.icann.org/x/UAGbC).  Please mute your phones and microphones when not speaking to avoid background noise and echoing.  This call is governed under ICANN’s Expected Standards of Behavior.  https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en
13:03:18	 From Jeffrey Neuman to All panelists : They let anyone into the SSAC these days :)
13:04:56	 From Kimberly Carlson to All panelists : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OYRqlx7W_RXg2ZbfQVMddzWzYmhVKNa2E7MRz6iwpCM/edit#heading=h.z1eacmf7020c
13:10:44	 From Rubens Kuhl to All panelists : Is someone operating a large resolver farm volunteering to provide data ?
13:11:15	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : @RK: It all depends on *what* data is being requested....
13:12:08	 From Rubens Kuhl to All panelists : @Waren: DITL-like data.
13:12:44	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : "Can you tell me the ranking of these 3 strings" vs "What's the source address of everyone who queries?"
13:13:06	 From Matt Larson to All panelists : I'm interested in "Top 100 web sites visited by Warren Kumari"
13:13:17	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : Good Gods no. I cannot imagine any large recursive being willing to do something like DITL.
13:13:38	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : It would be wildly intrusuve.
13:14:14	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy
13:16:18	 From Rubens Kuhl to All panelists : @Warren and that's the answer I imagine from all large recursive operators. So I don't know how we are imagining to analyse recursive data.
13:17:06	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : I've repeatedly said that "we" need to decide what we want to ask, and then have discussions with resolvers on if this is doable.
13:17:21	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : But so far that hasn't happened.
13:18:00	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : Recursives should be able to provide **some** info, as long as it is very very very aggregated and high level.
13:18:48	 From Rubens Kuhl to All panelists : Current score of NXD TLDs: local, home, dhcp, lan, comm, internal, localdomain, m4a, bbrouter, corp, modern, dlink, gateway, invalid, mygateway, localhost, openstacklocal, ip, dlinkrouter, wlan_ap, lan1, jpg
13:19:12	 From Rubens Kuhl to All panelists : Source: https://stats.dns.icann.org/stats/d/wom-ext-5minagg-qtype-vs-tld/qtype-vs-tld?orgId=1
13:22:21	 From Jeffrey Neuman to All panelists : I feel like we have an open ended exercise without a hypothesis of what we are seeking to prove or disprove
13:22:44	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : https://drive.google.com/file/d/10T2nRTWHSIEvWalpen5ZjcOuNNdGsAOK/view?usp=sharing
13:23:59	 From Jaap Akkerhuis to All panelists : Back again, machine died on me
13:26:31	 From Jeffrey Neuman to All panelists : I agree with Warren, lets have a subset of people work on this Study two and others work on the questions for Study Three
13:27:17	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : I 100% agree with you
13:27:30	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : Sorry, I 100% agree with Jim
13:27:52	 From Jeffrey Neuman to All panelists :  I am fine with that, but I would also appreciate moving on with the other questions
13:28:07	 From Warren Kumari to All panelists : But I'm suggesting we start working on getting the data, and then we can figure out *exactly* what we want to see...
13:28:50	 From Jeffrey Neuman to All panelists : But if you are only looking at the top extreme and not the NXdata that goes to everything else, then you are only seeing one side of the spectrum
13:32:54	 From Jeffrey Neuman to All panelists : Not too far in the future
13:38:53	 From Rubens Kuhl to All panelists : I don't see ICANN getting meaningful amounts of recursive data. And Warren confirmed that for the largest of it.
13:42:38	 From Rubens Kuhl to All panelists : There is, and .MAIL is a prime example of difference between recursive and the root.
13:49:09	 From Justine Chew : Apologies I have to leave for another call
14:00:15	 From Jaap Akkerhuis to All panelists : bye