00:20:12 Javier Rúa-Jovet: Hello 2 @all 00:20:33 Kimberly Carlson: Welcome to today’s ccPDP4 IDN Working Group Teleconference #7 on 15 December at 13:00 UTC. In the interest of time, there will be no roll call. Apologies: Alireza Salah. As a reminder, all calls are recorded and will be posted on the public wiki (https://community.icann.org/x/4IzzC). Please mute your phones and microphones when not speaking to avoid background noise and echoing. This call is governed under ICANN’s Expected Standards of Behavior. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en 00:24:19 Javier Rúa-Jovet: This time slot would be tough in normalcy, but during these COVID19 times, as I'm at home, it works out well. 00:25:10 Javier Rúa-Jovet: No comment. Thanx @Jaap for this. 00:25:58 jaap: @Javier, happy to be useful 00:27:22 Javier Rúa-Jovet: non 00:28:55 Hadia Elminiawi: Makes sense 00:28:58 Patrik Fältström: Please check if not also RFC8753 should be referenced. It is a clarification of the iDNA RFCs. But yes, we can wait and re-review 00:29:04 Oksana Prykhodko: agree 00:29:23 Kenny Huang: Thanks Patrik 00:31:22 Anil Kumar Jain CEO NIXI India: This may be discussed in next sections also 00:37:44 Javier Rúa-Jovet: Yes, it was a good background/context discussion on the notion of "designated language" vis a vis "official language". 00:40:00 Oksana Prykhodko: concerns or veto? 00:44:13 Hadia Elminiawi: ok 00:49:57 Javier Rúa-Jovet: I missed that concern/lost my internet for a sec 00:50:53 Javier Rúa-Jovet: discussion between "criterion" vs "criteria"? is that it? 00:51:00 Javier Rúa-Jovet: criterion 00:51:49 Javier Rúa-Jovet: disregard - got it 00:51:59 jaap: The term “LDH” comes in mind… 00:52:32 Sarmad Hussain: Do we need to make explicit that this criterion is applicable to the the U-label? 00:53:24 Hadia Elminiawi: @Javier to me it is clear as is 00:53:40 Javier Rúa-Jovet: yep @Hadia 00:53:41 Peter Koch: the line 11 can go as well 00:55:02 Javier Rúa-Jovet: I disagree its boring! Its great! 00:55:31 Javier Rúa-Jovet: :) 00:55:36 Patrik Fältström: @sarmad The document should just use a consistent terminology and regarding U-Label and A-Label it can take into account the fact A-Label and U-Label is a 1:1 mapping. 00:55:38 Peter Koch: reference to 3166 in the footnote needs to be adjusted 00:56:13 Hadia Elminiawi: @Anil so why don't hey list it first? 00:56:19 Hadia Elminiawi: *they 01:03:09 Peter Koch: my concern is that we accidentally introduce a way for sub parts of the ‘country’ to be eligible for an ‘IDN ccTLD’ when that subpart is ‘listed’ but does not have a code on its very own; maybe the headline here is confusing me rather than the text itself 01:04:01 Peter Koch: ok, I’ll suspend the devil’s advocate role for now ;-) 01:07:08 Javier Rúa-Jovet: Yep. Getting 2 letter codes is not a wholesale operation. 01:08:40 Patrik Fältström: I have another call at top of the hour, so I will most certainly not be as focused on this call for the remainder... :-( This was a good call. Thanks all! Specifically @bart ! 01:10:05 Joke Braeken: Next meeting: 12 January 2021, 13.00 UTC 01:10:54 jaap: Could you send an URL of version of the text? 01:11:22 Hadia Elminiawi: good 01:13:17 Kimberly Carlson: Happy Holidays and Good New Year to all 01:13:19 Javier Rúa-Jovet: Good concise cal! Happy Holidays to @all that have holidays in the next few weeks. 01:13:39 Hadia Elminiawi: Thank you all- Happy holidays all - see next year 01:13:39 Javier Rúa-Jovet: Feliz Navidad! 01:13:55 Oksana Prykhodko: Happy holidays, thank you, bye! 01:14:03 Hadia Elminiawi: Felz Navidad Javier 01:14:03 Yudho Giri Sucahyo: Thx bye