00:17:43	Kimberly Carlson:	Welcome to today’s Guideline Review Committee (GRC) on 11 May at 12:00 UTC. In the interest of time, there will be no roll call.  No apologies have been received.  As a reminder, calls are recorded and recordings posted on the public wiki:  https://community.icann.org/x/MyuJBw Please mute your phones and microphones when not speaking to avoid background noise and echoing.  This call is governed under ICANN’s Expected Standards of Behavior.  https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en
00:19:28	David McAuley (Verisign):	Sounds good Bart
00:22:13	David McAuley (Verisign):	it seems good to me
00:23:11	David McAuley (Verisign):	none here
00:25:20	David McAuley (Verisign):	But because these matters will be public isn't it likely there may be ccTLD community feedback even if not requested - this will be of great interest
00:25:35	David McAuley (Verisign):	the draft says 'if any'
00:26:32	David McAuley (Verisign):	no problem hgere with asking for feedback
00:31:01	David McAuley (Verisign):	lines 22-38 - seems clear to me to make the change just noted
00:38:58	David McAuley (Verisign):	Interesting point - but the community may want to pursue 'removal' if the circumstances are egregious, even if near end of term
00:45:28	David McAuley (Verisign):	Seems fair to me
00:45:31	David McAuley (Verisign):	I’m trying to sort my computer mic – I know it works but Zoom presents issues for it. So I may be unable to speak for a while – seem to have misplaced my phone
00:46:02	Katrina Sataki:	In such cases I usually say that I am speechless :)
00:46:18	David McAuley (Verisign):	Good one ;-)
00:47:03	David McAuley (Verisign):	not here
00:48:40	David McAuley (Verisign):	wish the bylaws drafters had used UTC instead of Pacific time
00:54:25	David McAuley (Verisign):	OK, thanks Bart
00:58:10	David McAuley (Verisign):	Agree w Katrina
00:58:32	Mirjana Tasic:	I also have feeling that six is too low
00:58:33	David McAuley (Verisign):	majority
00:59:00	David McAuley (Verisign):	agree
00:59:10	David McAuley (Verisign):	with Bart
01:04:51	David McAuley (Verisign):	This makes sense, Bart. Should we cross-reference in the ccNSO Rules that the removal guideline contains an exception at section 5.3.5?
01:05:21	David McAuley (Verisign):	Good point
01:05:46	David McAuley (Verisign):	Annex D is its own animal
01:13:11	David McAuley (Verisign):	if it is 'or' then it is possibly two things and thus unclear
01:13:43	David McAuley (Verisign):	I think 'of' is clearer
01:15:24	David McAuley (Verisign):	a number would be good
01:15:59	David McAuley (Verisign):	yes, ok here
01:16:23	David McAuley (Verisign):	13
01:16:32	David McAuley (Verisign):	lucky 13
01:19:23	David McAuley (Verisign):	Annex D will keep us occupied for a long time it seems
01:19:39	David McAuley (Verisign):	Yes, thanks Bart
01:22:05	David McAuley (Verisign):	I agree w Katrina, we need a removal guideline but let's hope it is never used
01:22:41	David McAuley (Verisign):	Stephen is also Mr 'Annex D'
01:24:02	David McAuley (Verisign):	Mirjana makes a fair point - this guideline reflects Annex D which itself is incredibly complex even for native speakers
01:27:07	Bart Boswinkel:	It becomes a dance for just a few:-)
01:28:33	David McAuley (Verisign):	none here
01:28:59	Alyssa Moore:	hi - my apologies this morning. i'm just tuning in in the background as I deal with some government relations files. 

I will engage with this document futher this week 
01:29:02	Sean Copeland:	:)
01:29:14	Alyssa Moore:	 : )
01:29:58	Alyssa Moore:	absolutely, i'll plan for that
01:30:49	Kimberly Carlson:	Yes it is
01:30:50	David McAuley (Verisign):	may 25 is a hlkoiday yes
01:30:54	David McAuley (Verisign):	in US
01:31:06	David McAuley (Verisign):	a holiday at home this year
01:31:36	Mirjana Tasic:	Bye all