01:26:58 Seun Ojedeji: Hello again 01:27:07 Maureen Hilyard (ALAC): Hi again Seun 01:27:14 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: hello everyone 01:28:12 Heidi Ullrich: Summary notes and Action Items will be posted at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+and+At-Large+Action+Items+from+ICANN67 01:29:03 Dave Kissoondoyal: Participation list 164 and growing 01:31:07 Joanna Kulesza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idaVG7nv32Y&feature=youtu.be link to the video 01:31:08 Volker Greimann: oooooooh 01:32:10 Mike A: Do we really need the hoodie? lol 01:32:26 Reg: hoodies are scary 01:32:36 Mike A: hahaha! 01:32:52 Natalie Rose: @Mike I like it 01:33:10 Volker Greimann: You can stop right now for the solution is already in place: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjj_rHuh47oAhXCDuwKHc1ZDSMQFjAAegQIBxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdnsabuseframework.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw2JlEfEDwvnlsgbXmmOT5Qg 01:33:21 Volker Greimann: http://dnsabuseframework.org/ 01:33:33 Kristine Dorrain (Amazon Registry): +1 volker 01:33:41 Gisella Gruber: Reminder - ES and FR versions on the wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Monday%2C+09+March+2020 01:33:45 Reg: +1 volker 01:34:19 Volker Greimann: This also answers the question: What are we already doing? 01:34:23 Volker Greimann: This: http://dnsabuseframework.org/ 01:34:51 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: mhm 01:35:09 Amine Hacha: Hi everyone from Lebanon 01:35:40 Maureen Hilyard (ALAC): It is helpful to get other resources that we can add to our DNS Abuse Resource kit for our community outreach teams. 01:35:51 Barrack Otieno: True 01:35:59 Jianne: +1 Maureen 01:36:36 christina.rodriguez: Rappel: Si vous souhaitez poser une question ou faire un commentaire en français, veuillez le taper dans le chat en commençant et en terminant votre phrase par: ou (veuillez faire des commentaires brefs seulement). 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Las preguntas y los comentarios en español serán traducidos al inglés y leídos durante la sesión por la persona a cargo de Participación Remota. 01:36:37 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: it would also be helpful to talk about what is dns (tech) abuse and what not.. 01:36:59 Natalie Rose: @Volker I am sure there are persons who do not know about the DNS Abuse Framework 01:37:07 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: and who can(!) be resposible for what 01:37:14 Donna Austin, Neustar: Agree Matthias 01:37:33 Volker Greimann: Natalie, let’s change that. 01:38:02 Natalie Rose: @Volker great and we can start now 01:38:21 Volker Greimann: You mean by linking to this: http://dnsabuseframework.org/ 01:38:24 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: @Volker: good of you to bring that up 01:38:37 Holly Raiche: This is a great first start for educational material 01:38:54 Barrack Otieno: True @Holly 01:38:57 Heidi Ullrich: +1 Holly 01:39:01 Donna Austin, Neustar: Who will create the educational material? 01:39:08 Chokri ben romdhane: Woo I finaly understand Jonathan speech he speek so slowly😁 01:39:14 Heidi Ullrich: It is also already recorded into ES/FR as well. 01:39:20 Dave Kissoondoyal: +1 Holy 01:39:37 Holly Raiche: JZ is involved in the media - video production - and it shows 01:40:03 Eric Mwobobia (ICANN 67 Fellow): +Holly 01:41:21 Dave Kissoondoyal: At this instant we have 225 virtual participants 01:41:39 DANIEL K. NANGHAKA: great 01:41:46 Judith Hellerstein: sorry for being late 01:41:53 Joanna Kulesza: @Donna hopefully the Capacity Building Working Group together with RALOs - all volunteers are welcome 01:41:54 Volker Greimann: HODOR died 01:42:01 Leon Sanchez: Do you have the links for Spanish and French @Heidi? 01:42:16 Evin Erdoğdu: See all ALAC / At-Large policy advice & comments: https://atlarge.icann.org/policy-summary 01:42:37 Evin Erdoğdu: See ALAC Advice on DNS Abuse (24 December 2019): https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/13747 01:43:16 Evin Erdoğdu: See the ALAC / At-Large DNS Abuse 101 videos, in EN, ES & FR, on the "Resources" page of the At-Large and DNS Abuse Activity website: https://go.icann.org/2Tl7fW6 01:43:21 Jonathan Zuck: @Leon, they’re here! 01:43:24 Jonathan Zuck: https://atlarge.icann.org/policy/at-large-and-dns-abuse-resources-en 01:43:31 Holly Raiche: That list should be made REALLY public 01:43:37 Leon Sanchez: Thanks Jonathan! 01:43:51 Evin Erdoğdu: @Leon direct link here: https://atlarge.icann.org/policy/at-large-and-dns-abuse-resources-en 01:43:59 Evin Erdoğdu: Thanks @Jonathan! 01:44:18 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: whois verification? 01:44:37 Volker Greimann: For more information, go to http://dnsabuseframework.org/ 01:44:39 Holly Raiche: Great presentation 01:44:40 Alan Greenberg: SUPERB PRESENTATION!!!!!!!!! Great work. 01:44:41 Dave Kissoondoyal: thanks @jz 01:44:44 Javier Rúa-Jovet: love it! 01:44:45 Eric Mwobobia (ICANN 67 Fellow): Great presentation 💪💪 01:44:47 Reg: @Holly, which list? 01:44:49 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Excellent as ever JZ 01:44:50 Alfredo Calderon: Great job @Jonathan!!!! 01:44:52 margiemilam: WOW - great video! 01:44:53 Natalie Rose: Nice video 01:44:53 Barrack Otieno: Great work JZ 01:44:55 Danko Jevtović (board): Grand! 01:44:59 Dave Kissoondoyal: Great presentation 01:44:59 David Taylor: Excellent presentation. 01:45:01 Norman Angel: Great Presentation. Very informative 01:45:04 yrjolansipuro: Great job! 01:45:06 Seun Ojedeji: good outreach material as well 01:45:08 Raymond Mamattah (ICANN67 Fellow): beautiful, simple and very well presented 01:45:19 Lito Ibarra: Great work, videos in 3 languages. Thanks 01:45:21 Leon Sanchez: Kudos to all who made this possible. Amazing job! 01:45:21 Holly Raiche: Do we have a place to publicize the list? 01:45:26 Oreoluwa Lesi: Clear and simple explanations. 01:45:35 Seun Ojedeji: can be used by anyone within ICANN (if they don't mind the atlarge publicity as well) 01:45:37 Tripti Sinha: Very nice! 01:45:42 Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong (IGF CHAD): great job very informative 01:46:16 Dave Kissoondoyal: https://youtu.be/idaVG7nv32Y 01:46:45 MohD E AbdElhafez: examples of idn homogragraph attacks 01:46:54 Satish Babu: This will be useful in interactions with the community... 01:47:00 Dean Marks: Thanks for a very clear presentation. @Volker--hats off to all the parties that have signed up to the DNS Abuse Framework. But the work of ALAC and the DNS Abuse Framework are not mutually exclusive. 01:47:20 Volker Greimann: http://dnsabuseframework.org/ 01:47:41 Volker Greimann: Absolutely, Dean 01:48:02 Donna Austin, Neustar: I think the education outreach initiative by ALAC is important. 01:48:07 Barrack Otieno: I think we need a sustained awareness campaign 01:48:28 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Thanks @Donna 01:48:36 Barrack Otieno: Inform, educate and entertain until the best practices become the norm 01:48:48 Leon Sanchez: The more initiatives the merrier I guess as long as they are consistent and provide accurate and useful information to all sorts of audiences 01:48:48 Maureen Hilyard (ALAC): @Donna exactly we want to get out to our own members who are unaware of what they need to know - and making sure we are getting the right messages out about DNS Abuse 01:48:49 Holly Raiche: Now we need to hear from Compliance! 01:48:53 David Taylor: It is positive certainly with those who have signed up to it, the negative is that many have not and many simply do not adhere to the motto "we have no use for DNS Abuse" :-) 01:49:17 Holly Raiche: YES 01:49:24 Joanna Kulesza: +1 Barrack. Plus we also need to make sure our language is accessible also outside ICANN - let's draw clear links with cybercrime and cybersecurity 01:49:38 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: +1 great idea to have this ported to ICANN Learn too 01:49:51 Theo Geurts: Good suggestion Joanna 01:49:56 Barrack Otieno: agreed Joanna 01:50:24 Volker Greimann: Education is probably the most important way of combating DNS abuse 01:50:40 Theo Geurts: One of the major issues with BEC fraud is lack of procedures. 01:50:40 Wale Bakare: @Joanne, how would you like to achieve this - cybercrime and cybersecurity? 01:50:42 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: :) 01:50:44 Donna Austin, Neustar: @David, I think that's an unfair statement about those that have not signed on to the framework. Just because a registry hasn't signed on doesn't mean they are not taking action that is abuse related. 01:50:49 Volker Greimann: Once people do no longer fall for these traps... 01:51:48 Holly Raiche: +1 Volker 01:52:00 Natalie Rose: Awesome Joanna 01:52:40 Heidi Ullrich: Staff have noted the point regarding an At-Large ICANN Learn course on DNS Abuse as an Action Item. 01:53:08 Oreoluwa Lesi: Yes, I agree that developing learning materials in simple language with explained acronyms is very important. 01:54:00 Theo Geurts: And making sure that such learning materials are used by many users. 01:54:12 Mike A: Mike Arbrouet here, first time ICANN fellow. How is ICANN collaborating with entities like ARIN or other RIRs to help combat DNS abuse? 01:54:43 Heidi Ullrich: At-Large DNS Abuse webpage: https://atlarge.icann.org/policy/at-large-and-dns-abuse-en 01:54:53 Joanna Kulesza: +1 Theo - diversifying the channels of communication might help here 01:54:57 Reg: DNSSEC support is required for all contracted parties—what can ICANN do to encourage the use of DNSSEC? (I agree! I love DNSSEC!!) 01:55:19 Fred Felman: @donna - conversely, because an entity has signed on to the abuse framework doesn’t mean that they are mitigating abuse effectively - the proof is in their results and how they respond to abuse. 01:55:47 Dean Marks: End user education resources seem like something everyone can agree upon. Can be shared with companies that can use with their employees as well. 01:56:03 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: dnssec is fine but would not help when a user clicks paypalfoobar.com 01:56:10 Joanna Kulesza: @Wale - the first step would be to link DNSAbuse to existing narratives on staying safe online, be it through cybercrime or cybersecurity. "DNSAbuse" says little if not nothing to the average user. 01:56:15 Reg: +1 Dean 01:56:34 Volker Greimann: The problem Wirth DNSSEC is that even though we are giving it away for free, many customers still don’t want it. 01:56:51 Graeme Bunton (Tucows): On that, 80% accuracy is nowhere close to commercially viable. Certainly worth following. 01:56:53 Rubens Kuhl: DNSSEC is a foundation for other good tools such as DANE, which enhances e-mail security in a significant way. 01:56:59 Joanna Kulesza: +1 Dean. Consolidating action among communities would also be a good idea. We have already talked about this briefly with SSAC friends and colleagues 01:57:10 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: volker: registrars *could* make it default? 01:57:23 Joanna Kulesza: the flip side of this is however understanding what the end user expectations are - that is also something we would like to work further on 01:57:30 Volker Greimann: If even I never heard of DANE, how are common users going to know about this use of DNSSEC? 01:57:40 Rubens Kuhl: No one asks directly for DNSSEC. But if you describe how DNS works and how DNSSEC works, and ask which one they want, they want DNSSEC. 01:57:40 Wes Hardaker: FYI, DNSSEC and DANE usage is still growing strong though. Daily graph updates on usage is published here by Viktor Dukovni and myself: http://stats.dnssec-tools.org/ 01:57:41 Donna Austin, Neustar: @Fred, I think the important point is that contracted parties take DNS Abuse seriously and actively mitigate and address abuse. 01:57:43 James Galvin (Afilias): @reg - the details of DNSSEC requirements are interesting and important. Registries have to sign the TLD and offer services to registrars. Registrars have to offer services, which can be through using a manual interface provided by registries. so, broad deployment is problematic right from the start. There are other detailed issues but those are the bold points. 01:57:44 Dean Marks: @ Joanna--I would be happy to help from the CSG perspective. 01:57:55 Rubens Kuhl: Like people want to be server beverage on clean glasses. 01:57:56 Barrack Otieno: I agree Rubens 01:58:02 Rubens Kuhl: (to be served) 01:58:19 Fred Felman: @donna +1 01:58:51 Reg: +1 Volker—if we start making registrants understand the DNS before they can use their domain names, we’ll cut down on all non-abusive domains >.< 01:59:04 Volker Greimann: What James said. Even if offered as default, many will deactivate it 01:59:22 Russ Mundy: @Matthias: completely agree that DNSSEC will NOT help when users _choose_ (by clicking or otherwise) to go to malicious site - this is where user education is crucial for reducing DNS abuse 01:59:57 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Thanks Laureen 02:00:00 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: Reg: DNS is working well, even in most of DNS abuse "cases"..in the most cases its a problem on aplication/content level 02:00:02 Svitlana Tkachenko: please repeat the url of the site 02:00:14 alexlevit: URL please :) 02:00:15 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: https://www.ftc.gov/ 02:00:16 Reg: ftc.gov 02:00:26 Svitlana Tkachenko: thankx 02:00:28 Maureen Hilyard (ALAC): @Laureen Thank you for this information on education materials from FTC, 02:00:36 Theo Geurts: It would also be great if we could support Open Threat Exchange communities and communities with volunteers on malware analysis 02:00:46 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: mnemonic: FTC = For The Consumer 02:00:52 Steinar Grøtterød: ICANN has webforms for Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form (not very easy to check and verify due to the Temp.Spec/GDPR). Could it be a good idea to ask ICANN to enable a way to report abuse from their website? Note: There is a site on "About spam, phishing etc, see https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/web-2013-05-03-en) 02:00:57 James Galvin (Afilias): @russ - as you know, if applications would do a better job of leveraging DNSSEC, then default DNSSEC would make more sense and actually provide some increased protection from malicious sites. 02:01:06 Laureen Kapin (U.S. FTC): The U.S. Federal Trade Commission has very user-friendly educational materials on how to protect users online. This includes materials on spotting and avoiding phishing. See https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/topics/online-security and https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-recognize-and-avoid-phishing-scams The materials are also available in Spanish. 02:01:10 Justine Chew: +1 Theo 02:01:16 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: +1 james..thats it 02:01:47 Rubens Kuhl: DNSSEC is really not that useful *now* in Web browsing, but that's not the situation in e-mail. 02:02:05 Joanna Kulesza: Let us just note that online user safety goes hand in hand with other end user interests, esp. privacy and FoE. AtLarge is also looking to take on this difficult balancing exercise. 02:02:07 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: why we dont talk about email abuse rather than dns abuse? 02:02:33 Heidi Ullrich: Link to the At-Large website that shows the 5 RALOs and the over 230 At-Large Structures: https://atlarge.icann.org/ 02:02:34 Volker Greimann: Because it is outside ICANNs mandate and not DNS abuse as such 02:02:37 Evin Erdoğdu: Thank you @Laureen 02:02:46 Reg: @Steinar the best, fastest way to get abuse remedied is to report it to the registrar in question; we can easily investigate and take action on it 02:02:50 David Taylor: @Donna - thanks and I agree, and I certainly didn't mean by my comment that it should encompass any registrar or registry that has not signed up to the framework, rather that there are those that have not signed on who are not taking as much action as they should to rid the DNS of DNS abuse. I sought to make that differentiation in my comment that of those who have not signed up there is a subset that do not adhere to the motto "we have no use for DNS Abuse" :-) 02:02:50 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: :) 02:03:32 Steinar Grøtterød: @Reg: Agree (if you know what a registrar is and that the registrar act) 02:04:34 Gisella Gruber: Coment in the chat 02:04:46 Reg Levy - Tucows: but the whois can show you the registrar; if you know enough to get to the ICANN website for reporting a whois inaccuracy, you can get the information that way 02:04:52 Mason Cole: Thanks Jonathan 02:04:58 Ram Mohan: Is this primarily a hygiene issue? Should it be dealt with the way poor hygiene is in real life? (wash your hands == install anti-spam filters; don't touch your face == don't click on random links in email, etc.) 02:05:00 Justine Chew: @Mason, yep, we've seen some of the BC points of view. Let's talk more. 02:05:02 Joanna Kulesza: @Volker the DNS Abuse framework mentions spam by name: DNS Abuse is composed of five broad categories of harmful activity insofar as they intersect with the DNS: malware, botnets, phishing, pharming, and spam - http://dnsabuseframework.org/media/files/2019-12-06_Abuse%20Framework.pdf Seems the picket fence might need to be readjusted yet again. 02:05:30 Volker Greimann: Joanna: Only where spam is used as conduit for the other forms 02:05:33 Holly Raiche: Great idea - but what would be the process once something is reported? 02:05:35 Brian Cimbolic: It only mentions spam specifically when a vehicle for phasing, malware, farming and botnets 02:05:38 Michelle DeSmyter: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/web-2013-05-03-en)
 From James Galvin (Afilias) to Everyone: (02:19 PM) 02:05:47 Rubens Kuhl: If those organisations want to list spam as abuse, is their choice. But not a contractual obligation. 02:05:48 Brian Cimbolic: phishing* 02:05:57 Volker Greimann: SPAM in and of itself is hosting, not domain. 02:06:22 Michele Neylon : each registrar has their own intakes for abuse reporting 02:06:28 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: Reg: my experience is that users dont do that :/ 02:06:32 Michele Neylon : you can’t really centralise it 02:06:43 Volker Greimann: Joanna: “While Spam alone is not DNS Abuse, we include it in the five key forms of DNS Abuse when it is used as a delivery mechanism for the other four forms of DNS Abuse. In other words, generic unsolicited e-mail alone does not constitute DNS Abuse, but it would constitute DNS Abuse if thate-mail is part of a phishing scheme. " 02:06:44 Reg Levy - Tucows: mine is, to, unfortunately, Mattias 02:07:00 Reg Levy - Tucows: *too. 02:08:37 Joanna Kulesza: @Volker, indeed, readjusting as already said. More interesting is IPRs protection, the nexus with privacy and, my personal favourite, terrorist content. Lots of stuff to talk about. 02:08:41 Bill Jouris: Getting that kind of hygiene imbedded in the culture is the challenge. It took decades, after all, to convince people that washing hands routinely was desirable. 02:08:45 Mason Cole: BC's communication to the Board re: Abuse: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/selli-to-botterman-09dec19-en.pdf 02:09:28 Michelle DeSmyter: Online quiz: https://atlarge.wiki/DAQuiz 02:09:37 Reg Levy - Tucows: but you do need to log in… 02:09:42 Ram Mohan: @BillJouris, agree. I wonder whether intervention will be as effective as behavior modification 02:09:48 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: so in many cases it is very difficult for a user just to report Abuse to the right place 02:09:59 Michelle DeSmyter: https://atlarge.wiki/DAQuiz 02:10:38 Rod Rasmussen: It’s gonna take a while to read that privacy policy! 02:10:39 Natalie Rose: Ohh noo. I am nervous 02:10:50 Reg Levy - Tucows: oh, perhaps the login was only to be reminded about the quiz 02:10:52 Theo Geurts: @matthias , the RrSG is working on a project to simplify abuse reporting. 02:10:53 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: One apparently needs to sign up? Or provide Google/FB credentials? 02:11:12 Joanna Kulesza: @Rod you're too funny :> 02:11:28 Natalie Rose: No no need to sign up. 02:11:31 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: thx Theo 02:11:45 Joanna Kulesza: @OCL that's that interesting intersection with privacy ;) 02:11:51 Jonathan Zuck: No need to sign jup 02:11:52 Maureen Hilyard (ALAC): @Olivier - just JOIN 02:12:14 Michelle DeSmyter: Online quiz: https://atlarge.wiki/DAQuiz 02:12:17 Mike A: waiting for players, starting soon... 02:12:23 Dave Kissoondoyal: yes 02:12:27 Joanna Kulesza: 44 players 02:12:30 Joanna Kulesza: getting exciting 02:12:31 Dawn Shackleton Mercer: privacy terms unacceptable 02:12:38 Volker Greimann: I was just wondering why it was so quiet 02:13:03 Mike A: 534 players 02:13:05 Mike A: let's do this 02:13:11 Mike A: *54 02:13:13 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: gogogo :) 02:13:21 Sebastien Bachollet Euralo: I don’t like competition 02:13:28 john.crain: You can just sign in with made up name etc 02:13:45 Mike A: i like quiet time 02:13:49 Dean Marks: Bears definitely need representation! 02:13:51 Barrack Otieno: @Seb :-) 02:13:53 Natalie Rose: We are reading ok 02:14:00 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: individual users 02:14:09 Betty Fausta: what's happening? 02:14:16 Natalie Rose: Yea music would be awesome 02:14:20 Justine Chew: Sorry @JZ, I'm multitasking, can't manage quiz right now. 02:14:28 Michelle DeSmyter: Online quiz: https://atlarge.wiki/DAQuiz 02:14:30 G A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWuQVpBeqLs 02:14:38 Betty Fausta: ok tks @Michelle 02:14:39 Mike A: what is DNS would have read better 02:14:40 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: domain name system 02:14:43 Oreoluwa Lesi: @Bette, we are playing a game 02:14:53 Betty Fausta: oki Oreo 02:15:09 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: that was a hard quastion 02:15:21 Filina Natalia (Euralo Secretary): music!!!!-) 02:15:30 Joanna Kulesza: any BabyYoda music @JZ? 02:15:37 Natalie Rose: Heheheh 02:15:38 Joanna Kulesza: we would need a star wars theme I think 02:15:40 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: too many requests to one server 02:15:42 Jonathan Zuck: BabyYoda?! 02:15:42 Betty Fausta: unfortunately I'm in part of the world with low speed. undeserving region in Caribbean 02:15:59 Bill Jouris: How similar to phishing is it to have a site which asks for email and name information in order to participate. Just saying, I'm having a bt of cognative dissonance here. 02:16:04 Sebastien Bachollet Euralo: Are you sure that the best use of our time with 230 people on line? 02:16:07 Natalie Rose: My Internet is too slow 02:16:14 Betty Fausta: can't not open for now. have to move for a high-speed spot 02:16:17 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: type of DNS abuse attack 02:16:29 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: serious? 02:16:40 Oreoluwa Lesi: @Bette, I understand. 02:16:47 Mike A: washing your hands is good too 02:16:51 Betty Fausta: that is the inequity of Internet 02:16:58 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: DNSSEC 02:17:00 Michele Neylon : question 6 is a bit messed up 02:17:09 Danko Jevtović (board): :) 02:17:14 Mike A: it is 02:17:17 Michele Neylon : dnssec is encryption 02:17:38 Oreoluwa Lesi: I thought Education was the best way to address DNS Abuse. 02:17:45 Mike A: that's right 02:18:05 Nadira Al Araj: the quiz is slow to move from one question to the next 02:18:06 Holly Raiche: I actually prefer the Delaware answer myself 02:18:13 Wale Bakare: dnssec + multifactor authentication integration 02:18:15 Mike A: wo we can have multiple answers 02:18:20 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: phishsing 02:18:42 Satish Babu: Male ware? 02:18:47 Volker Greimann: What is male-ware? 02:18:49 Mike A: malware 02:18:49 Ram Mohan: Maleware...really?? 02:18:50 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: virus 02:18:56 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: :) 02:18:56 Holly Raiche: Will this quiz be part of the presentation - it’s fun 02:19:08 Peter Koch: I really like “maleware”!! 02:19:16 Filina Natalia (Euralo Secretary): -)))) 02:19:31 Natalie Rose: hehehe 02:19:31 Holly Raiche: A new branch of DNS abuse 02:19:32 Justine Chew: We should maleware you @JZ. LOL. 02:20:00 Barrack Otieno: :-))) 02:20:06 Mike A: kinda vague 02:20:22 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: predict the intention to do bad things 02:20:23 Natalie Rose: Heheheh oh my 02:20:25 Reg Levy - Tucows: whoa, predict the intention to do bad things?? 02:20:26 Filina Natalia (Euralo Secretary): @Justine -)))) 02:20:27 Holly Raiche: One could be cheeky and talk about a new type of virus! 02:20:31 Kristian Ørmen: If you read the privacy policy it would be all the buttons 02:20:44 Wale Bakare: +Mike 02:21:01 Holly Raiche: Becoming a very fun quiz 02:21:04 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: mim works very well even without domain names .. 02:21:06 Mike A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opRMrEfAIiI 02:21:08 Jaap Akkerhuis: to be gender neutral, it should me monkey in the middle 02:21:28 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: MORE RESEARCH 02:21:35 Danko Jevtović (board): ops 02:21:39 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: better online games 02:21:43 Joanna Kulesza: I like the magic rock idea 02:21:47 Natalie Rose: Yea Julie 02:21:50 Mike A: not bad 02:21:52 Natalie Rose: You go 02:21:56 Vitor Horita: Very good 02:21:59 Justine Chew: @Jaap, I like monkeys, can you use "roach" instead? 02:22:05 Maureen Hilyard (ALAC): Well done. I enjoyed that. 02:22:05 MohD E AbdElhafez: number 10 02:22:09 Holly Raiche: A new form of abuse - wonderful 02:22:11 Mike A: way to go Julie! 02:22:17 Evin Erdoğdu: Congrats Julie! 02:22:28 Danko Jevtović (board): Bravo Julie!!! 02:22:32 Evin Erdoğdu: Thanks to all who participated in the quiz :) 02:22:33 David Taylor: good idea re the quiz 02:22:33 Laureen Kapin (U.S. FTC): Ahhh, you failed to disclose that quiz results would be publicly disclosed! 02:22:44 Sarah Wyld (Tucows): +1 Laureen 02:22:52 Sebastien Bachollet Euralo: I don’t @Maureen 02:22:53 Peter Koch: Is “wholistic” same category as “maleware”? 02:23:03 Andrey Kolesnikov: is quiz idn compliant? my name was in cyrillic )))) 02:23:03 Alan Greenberg: @Laureen, it was in the privacy policy that you read and agreed to. 02:23:08 Danko Jevtović (board): @Laureen - we accepted something - who knows what 02:23:19 Laureen Kapin (U.S. FTC): I was too suspicious to take the quiz ;-). 02:23:23 Lianna Galstyan: we’ve got I could read your name, Andrei 02:23:30 Andrey Kolesnikov: )))) 02:23:39 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: I enjoyed the quiz 02:24:04 Natalie Rose: Same here @Keolebogile 02:24:06 Korry Luke: I kinda want a magic DNS Abuse rock now after that quiz 02:24:16 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: that was a nice phishing demonstration 02:24:17 Katarina: 👍 02:24:38 Reg Levy - Tucows: +1 Matthias, but you could “sign up” with false credentials, luckily 02:24:45 Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin: heh 02:25:23 David Taylor: We just have no idea of WhoisWho on the quiz results.... 02:25:27 Heidi Ullrich: Wednesday’s sessions, including Joanna’s: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C+11+March+2020 02:27:05 Evin Erdoğdu: Thank you all! 02:27:06 Gisella Gruber: 20:30 UTC - At-Large Policy Session: Tools for Wholistic Contract Compliance Zoom: https://icann.zoom.us/my/cun67.costamaya1 Audio Streaming in English, French and Spanish: https://67.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1152523 In this session, we will look specifically at the tools Contractual Compliance has for the wholistic evaluation of contracted parties, as opposed to the purely complaint driven processes. How can the audit function be used more aggressively? How can thresholds of abuse be set that would more easily precipitate a breach finding? Agenda: Introduction and Welcome Past Scenarios and Lessons Learned - Presentation Do we have the Tools that are Needed 02:27:25 Reg Levy - Tucows: Thank you, Jonathan! 02:27:27 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Thanks JZ great session 02:27:32 Vitor Horita: Thanks 02:27:33 Vittorio Bertola: Thanks! 02:27:36 Volker Greimann: You’re welcome 02:27:37 Lito Ibarra: Thanks everyone. Bye 02:27:39 hanan khatib: thank you all 02:27:40 Jaewon Son : thank you for the great session! 02:27:41 Dave Kissoondoyal: Thanks and bye to all 02:27:41 Natalie Rose: Thanks Jonathan. The Best session so far 02:27:47 Marita Moll: Great session -- thanks 02:27:52 Vitor Horita: Thank you 02:27:52 Nadira Al Araj: thank you Jonathan 02:27:54 Nandita Koshal: Thank you for a wonderful session. 02:27:54 Satish Babu: Thanks and bye! 02:28:01 Danko Jevtović (board): +1 great session 02:28:02 Maureen Hilyard (ALAC): Great session thank you Jonathan. The compliance session is coming up soon. Hope to see everyone there again. 02:28:03 Oreoluwa Lesi: Interesting session. Thank you. 02:28:04 Lianna Galstyan: Thanks everyone 02:28:06 Sebastien Bachollet Euralo: One man show 02:28:07 Zarko Kecic: Thanks 02:28:08 Svitlana Tkachenko: thank you 02:28:09 Barrack Otieno: Thanks JZ and colleagues 02:28:12 Rod Rasmussen: Way to go ALAC! 02:28:12 Joanna Kulesza: Thanks everyone! 02:28:18 Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong (IGF CHAD): bye 02:28:18 Filina Natalia (Euralo Secretary): Thanks 02:28:20 Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong (IGF CHAD): thanks 02:28:21 Korry Luke: Thanks all 02:28:22 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: http://atlarge.wiki/dnsabuse 02:28:26 Sarah Kiden: Thanks 02:28:27 Boban Krsic: bye 02:28:28 KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse: thank you 02:28:31 T Nina: tkxs