The next Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP WG teleconference is scheduled for Tuesday 03 June 2014 at 1400 UTC 07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 London, 16:00 CET
For other times: http://tinyurl.com/ksuntyf
Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/ppsai/
Agenda:
- Roll Call/Updates to SOI
- Discuss next steps for the “transfer issue” following Kathy and James’ report
- Finalize deliberations on D-2
- Commence deliberations on D-3 (if time permits)
- Next steps/next meeting
Documents for Review:
PPSAI - Category D Question 2 - updated 29 May 2014
PPSAI - Category D Question 3 - 2 June 2014
Other Documents (for List Discussion/Finalization):
PPSAI - Category C - Question 3 - updated 2 June 2014
PPSAI Category D - Question 1 - updated 2 June 2014
MP3 Recording: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140602-en.mp3
Meeting Transcript: http://gnso.icann.org/en/node/45379
Attendees:
Steve Metalitz - IPC
Kathy Kleiman – NCUC
Justin Macy – BC
James Bladel – RrSG
Laura Jedeed – BC
Sarah Wyld - RrSG
Michele Neylon – RrSG
Chris Pelling – RrSG
David Cake – NCSG
Jennifer Standiford – RrSG
Christian Dawson – ISPCP
Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP
Don Moody – IPC
Darcy Southwell - RrSG
Graeme Bunton – RrSG
Don Blumenthal – RySG
Luc Seufer – RrSG
Phil Marano – SOI
Todd Williams – IPC
Jim Bikoff – IPC
Frank Michlick – RrSG
Holly Raiche – ALAC
Susan Prosser- RrSG
Kristina Rosette – IPC
Val Sherman – IPC
Todd Williams – IPC
Tim Ruiz – RrSG
David Heasley – IPC
Griffin Barnett – IPC
Tatiana Khramtsova - RrSG
Apologies:
Kiran Malancharuvil – IPC
Paul McGrady – IPC
Tobias Sattler – RrSG
Stephanie Perrin – NCSG
Libby Baney – BC
Brian Winterfeldt - IPC
Joe Catapano - staff
ICANN staff:
Mary Wong
Amy Bivins
Terri Agnew
Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 03 June 2014:
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 03 June 2014
Graeme Bunton:First one in!
Terri Agnew:You sure are
Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all
Val Sherman:Good morning
Chris Pelling:afternoon all :)
Chris Pelling:just waiting for the attendants to pick the phone up :)
steve metalitz:enjoying the Thelonious Monk tune while waiting for coordinator to assist me momentarily
Frank Michlick:Hell.
Frank Michlick:erm
Frank Michlick:Hello
Holly Raiche:Great music!
steve metalitz:Round Midnight
Holly Raiche:Febulous number!
Don Blumenthal:I'm jealous about the music. Adobe doesn't have it.
Kathy:I think they should change the music to Rock
Frank Michlick:Yep, we want music here too ;-)
Bladel:Waiting on the Operator. Did they cut staff over there or something?
Susan Prosser:i agree Kathy
Holly Raiche:No Kathy - not with that jazz
Chris Pelling:some status quo would be nice
Chris Pelling:crumbs 4 mins and still on this music
Don Blumenthal:Holly, agreed
Kathy::-) Holly
Tim Ruiz:Anyone getting in on the phone?
Chris Pelling:hoora
Don Blumenthal:Chris, is that a yes to Tim?
Kathy:@Tim -- not me, stil waiting
Val Sherman:@Tim -- on hold
Bladel:finally.
Chris Pelling:just got in
Chris Pelling:to Don that was
Holly Raiche:Agreed on the jazz
Tim Ruiz:Got in!
Terri Agnew:Todd Williams and David Heasley has joined
Holly Raiche:So have you seen Miles live- FAB
Terri Agnew:Griffin Barnett has joined
Kathy:I'm in now too...
Terri Agnew:Jim Bikoff has joined
Mary Wong:@Michele, yes that is correct.
Bladel:I wasn't aware it was optional. :)
Bladel:That's why I'm so annoying in IRTP.
Graeme Bunton:My job title was updated in my SOI, no other changes
Mary Wong:Thanks, Graeme.
Terri Agnew:Phil Marano has joined
Don Blumenthal:It's not optional. I have found it annoying so I didn't do it until being corrected
Terri Agnew:David Cake has joined
Terri Agnew:Jennifer Standiford has joined
Kathy:Sorry Don, my thought was that the follow-up work (now to do) is narrow and focused
Don Blumenthal:Thanks for the clarification. Lots of audio cut outs here.
Kathy:Agree with James
Tim Ruiz:ICANN critical would be at a minimum anything required in the RAA and Consensus Policy, IMHO.
Tim Ruiz:I would also include anything that this WG deems critical regarding any of the areas we are covering.
Tim Ruiz:Reveal for example.
Kathy:Yikes, more work...
Bladel:Sure, but I think we would need more help. :)
Kathy:Seriously, I would be happy to
Bladel:Yes, same here. Just need some fresh recruits.
Kathy:Agree - who can join us
Kristina Rosette:not just you. happening to me too now.
Bladel:Don is breaking up.
Bladel:No problems on the phone bridge, tho.
Bladel:I can hear tim.
Michele Neylon:yes
Holly Raiche:yes
Tim Ruiz:Could anyone hear me?
Terri Agnew:@Tim, yes but you were breaking up a bit
Holly Raiche:Yes Kathy thks
Holly Raiche:yes
Susan Prosser:yes, Kathy
Terri Agnew:Don is back
Don Blumenthal:Maybe :)
Kathy: Great, we have James, Holly, Kathy --- who else?
Kathy:on the subgroup...
Kathy:and adopt issues 1 and 3 for consideration in appropriate later sections, eg., relay
Bladel:I don't heart them.
Bladel:Maybe Don should dial in?
Bladel:Clearly this chat room is haunted!
Holly Raiche:One is tempted to comment about hearing voices
Chris Pelling:that 24 hour contact is only for abuse *
Kathy:Tx for the clarification, Michele!
steve metalitz:@Michele, the issue is contactability, not necessarily response
Kathy:would it be possible to post the RAA sections?
Mary Wong:@Kathy for now they're summarized in the first para of the WG Response in Column 3 - I will find the link to the actual RAA.
Mary Wong:Link to 2013 RAA and Specs: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en
Kathy:Great, tx Mary!
Kathy:I like reading the full language iof RAA 2013 for 3.18 - it's pretty readable.
Terri Agnew:as a reminder, please mute whennot speaking
Terri Agnew:on telephone press *6 to mute or unmute
steve metalitz:Let's remember that accreditation standards need to apply to p/p services not affiliated with registrars -- as well as those affiliated -- so registrar abuse contact may not be in a position to resolve.
Terri Agnew:Tatiana Khramtsova has joined
Michele Neylon:apparently "defamation" is illegal
Michele Neylon:which is a problem
Luc Seufer:@Steve under the 2013 RAA registrars have to escrow the underlying data
Holly Raiche:@Michele - while it is 'against the law' it is a civiil ratherthan criminal matter
Luc Seufer:so they have to be aware of it
Holly Raiche:@ Michele - that's in the Australian jurisdiction
Kathy:Plus, the allegation of defamation is not the same as the proof of defamation.
Holly Raiche:@ Kathy - so true
Michele Neylon:Under Irish law unfortunately the allegation is practically the same as being found guilty
Michele Neylon:as it's nigh on impossible to defend against
Kathy:In the US, in chatroom cases, there is protection provided in the process because allegations of defamation were used to try to disclose whistleblowers and other....
Michele Neylon:really badly written law
steve metalitz:Should we kick off on D3?
Michele Neylon:we have 3 minutes left
Mary Wong:Under 2013 RAA "Illegal Activity" is defined as conduct involviing a Registered Name that is "prohibited by law".
Graeme Bunton:I suspect we just hold on d3 for a week
Kathy:Interesting discussion, all!
Don Blumenthal:agrree pm D3
Don Blumenthal:on D3
