08:39:26 From Claudia Ruiz : Welcome to the ALAC Monthly Call
08:55:09 From Aris Ignacio : Hello everyone!
08:57:13 From Aris Ignacio : Hello just a correction on my name for the record. Thanks! :-)
08:58:51 From Priyatosh Jana : Hi everyone
08:58:59 From Michel TCHONANG : Hello everyone
08:59:13 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : I don't hear anything
08:59:30 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : Testing my audio
08:59:31 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Hello all!
08:59:49 From Maureen Hilyard : @Glenn - We haven't started yet.. except for Claudia managing the call
08:59:51 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome, All.
09:00:21 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : can someone say something , I may need to log into the room via my laptop if i don't hear anything
09:00:32 From Chokri ben romdhane : hi all
09:02:52 From Claudia Ruiz : Glenn we are speaking, you may need to reconnect
09:03:35 From Justine Chew : Cheryl and I are at SubPro call for another 30 mins - intense discussion going on.
09:03:58 From Maureen Hilyard : Sounds very interesting Justine
09:04:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : but important discussion that is making *some* important progress
09:06:53 From Herb Waye : Hello everyone, nice to see your names and hear your voices.
09:07:09 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : hi Herb
09:07:18 From silvia.vivanco : Welcome Herb
09:07:35 From Sarah Kiden : Hello Herb
09:08:04 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : On Adigo now
09:15:43 From Javier Rua-Jovet : excuse tardiness
09:16:23 From Andrey Kolesnikov : sorry for being late
09:17:20 From Judith Hellerstein : which RALOS have observers
09:17:38 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Hello everyone.. Sorry for being late
09:18:02 From Judith Hellerstein : Can some one explain observer status
09:18:09 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : great graph
09:19:17 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : some of APRALO Individual members are members of ALSes
09:19:41 From Loris Taylor : The NARALO yellow is too light to see.
09:20:04 From Judith Hellerstein : How is that possible? I thought individual members can not be part of any alses
09:20:55 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : @judith there is no way to validate
09:21:03 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : @Judith Observers is the Rules based tie of all "pre" confirmed Membership status ALSes or Unaffiliated Members in APRALO been in ace since we formed
09:21:04 From Harold Arcos : We have recognized Individual Members in our Operating Principles. Within our new Rules of Procedures we develop the bases of the new LACRALO ALS for Individual Members.
09:21:05 From Heidi Ullrich : Judith, some RALOs have individuals within a separate ALS for them - like in EURALO.
09:21:35 From Alan Greenberg : It is really important to have a date for LACRALO
09:22:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : yes Judith it does
09:22:15 From silvia.vivanco : Observers - they are called as such while the form /procedures are defined clearly
09:22:34 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Do observers have the right to vote during elections?
09:22:45 From Claudia Ruiz : Hand up for Sylvia Herlein on ES
09:22:55 From Heidi Ullrich : @Dave - no , they do not.
09:23:07 From Judith Hellerstein : @nadira, yes there is. You have to write to the als and ask them to check their member roles and determine whether they are members of that ALS
09:23:17 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Thanks @Heidi
09:23:30 From Satish Babu : @Judith, our due dilgence for individual members go by the declaration made by applicants. In some cases, the applicant is unaware that he/she is a member of an ALS.
09:23:48 From Judith Hellerstein : @satish, yes we have the same issue as well
09:24:04 From Judith Hellerstein : but we do not let them into naralo until they are verified
09:25:13 From Satish Babu : @Judith, we do not (yet) have a verification system that can go beyond the facts stated in their applications.
09:25:25 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : @Judith, the list of APRALO unaffiliated members need to be checked
09:25:50 From Claudia Ruiz to Katambi Joan (ISOC UGANDA) (Privately) : Welcome Joan, our operator was unable to reach you on the phone, do you have another #?
09:26:23 From Judith Hellerstein : @satish @nadira, we ask the different ISOC chapters or others if this person is a member of their chapter/ALS and ask them to check their member roles
09:26:47 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : very hard to speak with my own voice in one ear and SubPro in the other
09:27:48 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : the problem when the unaffiliated apply they don’t understand the concept of ALS
09:27:49 From Judith Hellerstein : they they check them and let us know and it they say this person is a member we tell the member that they either have to drop out of the membership of that ALS or decide not to be an individual
09:28:00 From Judith Hellerstein : @nadira exactly
09:28:09 From Satish Babu : @Judith, such a system would not be easy in Asia-Pacific given the large number of countries and communities. We have in the past rejected applicants for being ALS members.
09:28:13 From Judith Hellerstein : which is why it takes time to verify their status
09:28:26 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : That is the importance of the term Unaffiliated over Individual Members in all this
09:28:31 From Harold Arcos : At LACRALO an Observer, whether ALS or Individual Member, is the one who is waiting to be approved by ALAC for accreditation in Ralo.
09:29:07 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : exactly Alan
09:29:20 From Judith Hellerstein : @alan ISOC Canada has a membership fee so easy to check
09:29:23 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : As to ISOC Canada as a cofounder i don't recall Alan as a member
09:29:35 From Harold Arcos : @Alan, we are in Elections and at the end of the elections. We will proceed to call Consensus for the New Rules of Procedure that are in Regional Comments since 3 weeks. Next week we may have more news.
09:29:48 From Judith Hellerstein : perhaps alan was a member of ISOC Quebec
09:29:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : important issue yes Alan, but work yet (but soon) to be done
09:29:56 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : We had a paid membership with ISOC Canada and I checked the database
09:30:33 From Alan Greenberg : @Glenn, as an ISOC indiv member, I was listed as an ISOC Canada member (not sure how I got there). Also was a member at one point of ISOC Quebec. But not active in either.
09:32:49 From shreedeep rayamajhi : I think the problem is how to define membership , is it just being active or Being a member or being in the voting listing, has disassociated with the organization
09:34:35 From Seun Ojedeji : Hu
09:34:38 From Seun Ojedeji : hi
09:34:38 From Judith Hellerstein : I defined member as being listed as a member by that organization
09:35:47 From Yrjo Lansipuro to Claudia Ruiz (Privately) : Thank you. I had to re-boot the laptop…
09:36:02 From Claudia Ruiz to Yrjo Lansipuro (Privately) : Glad that solved the issue
09:36:45 From shreedeep rayamajhi : thanks judith
09:38:02 From Javier Rua-Jovet : @All note the upcoming “Geopolitics and Cybersecurity” webinar organized by the ALAC Capacity Building working Group (CBWG) held on June 1st 2020 at 21:00 UTC.
09:38:30 From Javier Rua-Jovet : (to be held)
09:39:02 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : All these tools ie. Loomio has limited time to use them
09:39:30 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Matters that were discussed and presented at the May21 Meeting of the GNSO Council is at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/GNSO+Liaison+Reports the Minutes of that call will be posted there when available, Of note however is the Reappointment of Matthew Shears to seat 14 on the ICANN Board. (As brief GBSO Council Liaison Report
09:39:39 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Thanks @Javier! We are waiting for the same success like in March-)
09:39:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : GNSO
09:39:44 From Jonathan Zuck : Loomio.org/atlarge
09:40:43 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Claudia Ruiz (Privately) : done , thanks
09:40:46 From Joanna Kulesza : Thank you @Javier and @Natalia :)
09:41:47 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : @Joanna your excellent job! :-)
09:42:02 From Judith Hellerstein : I actually like loomio better than slack
09:42:49 From Marita Moll : +1 Alan -- I am having trouble with the increased volume of mail that comes to my box when I participate in loomio. Maybe I just don't know how to use it properly.
09:43:58 From Heidi Ullrich : It might be useful to have the TTF develop a strategy on the types of tools to be used.
09:44:15 From Maureen Hilyard : @Heidi Cheryl has identified an AI
09:44:40 From Heidi Ullrich : Noted, Maureen.
09:44:42 From liz Orembo : and also another app to download? let's also review it's privacy T&Cs. But happy to contribute.
09:44:45 From Heidi Ullrich : Post ICANN68?
09:45:21 From Judith Hellerstein : @heidi yes that is a good idea
09:45:22 From Maureen Hilyard : There is another month of the trial to go
09:45:50 From Karen Mulberry : In the tool trials, is security of the platform also being looked at as part of functionality?
09:45:53 From Heidi Ullrich : So AI is to have the TTF first discuss and then host a wider call for decision?
09:46:13 From Judith Hellerstein : Right now the TTF discussed this at its past meeting and we will have the legal and IT people on our next call
09:46:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : TTF can and should advise and inform our discussion in this but NOT run it
09:46:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : TTF brings in very particular expertise
09:47:58 From Heidi Ullrich : Is this AI correct: ALAC use of tools, including Loomio, to be reviewed by the TTF. Following this, the ALAC to hold a single issue call on the various tools and platforms to be used in order to develop a strategy.
09:48:42 From Heidi Ullrich : I’ll note this is to be actioned following ICANN68.
09:49:06 From Judith Hellerstein : @heidi I thought we have to go through legal and IT security before we can discuss creating a strategy
09:49:08 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : It seems we are repeating the same views the last time we test a range of tools. Some will use it, some despise them
09:49:22 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : At the end of the day, does it increase efficiency or communication?
09:49:37 From Javier Rua-Jovet : I need all the possible technological aids to combat my ADD and herd my inner cats. Thx @JonathanZ
09:49:47 From Judith Hellerstein : If we do not than this is much easier and we can crete a strategy
09:50:43 From Justine Chew : Shall I try reopening my proposals on Loomio?
09:51:45 From Abdulkarim oloyede : I think this the test for loomio is ongoing we should try it and suspend the discussion till after the trial
09:52:01 From Abdulkarim oloyede : since the test
09:52:13 From Yrjo Lansipuro : Justine, a good idea. This would be a live test of Loomio
09:53:01 From Jonathan Zuck : They agreed to 200 participants for 2 months for the test. But a valid test requires more folks to just join those threads, even if they want to participate in this conversations from their email.
09:53:33 From Justine Chew : I put 2 in for trial, but I set a short closing date for both. So I can try reopening them for folks to see one type of use example.
09:53:39 From Michel TCHONANG : very good idea
09:53:49 From Jonathan Zuck : I can circulate some videos on the list if you like on how to make use of it.
09:54:31 From Heidi Ullrich : @Judith, we might wish to invite E&IT to any single issue call discussing tools.
09:57:27 From Javier Rua-Jovet : thx Joanna for all the awesome work.
09:58:37 From Heidi Ullrich : Draft FY21 O/E Strategy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fWS0BVwS7_jzxevZ55IzTKUf_It_2SYc0AVj9GoHucY/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs
09:59:24 From Heidi Ullrich : Virtual meetings workspace - https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Sub-Committee+on+Outreach+and+Engagement+Table+of+Virtual+Events+-+FY20-FY21
09:59:33 From Heidi Ullrich : Please add any virtual meetings you are aware of
09:59:39 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome, Leon!
09:59:54 From Joanna Kulesza : Thank you @Javier! Looking forward to you presenting the end user perspective on cybersec and geopolitics on Monday
10:00:46 From Humberto Carrasco : hello everybody!!
10:01:09 From Joanna Kulesza : Let me note - Leon also kindly accepted our invitation to speak on Board plan on this specific strategic plan item. Thank you @Leon, very much looking forward to listening to your intervention in the next webinar.
10:06:55 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thanks León much appreciated...
10:07:07 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you Leon
10:07:07 From Javier Rua-Jovet : @All, note that @Leon is one of the panelists (Thx Leon) in the upcoming “Geopolitics and Cybersecurity” webinar organized by the CBWG) (June 1st 2020 at 21:00 UTC). Thx Leon for always contributing so much!
10:07:21 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Thanks @Leon. However the argument not to provide any help for ICANN68 does not stand good.
10:07:32 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : @dave what do you mean?
10:07:52 From León Felipe Sánchez Ambía : thank you all. I really hope I will be able to have better news in the near future
10:08:28 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Leon has mentioned that it is tool late to provide help for ICANN68 for the volunteers.
10:09:19 From Jaewon Son : looking forward to the webinar!
10:09:56 From Claudia Ruiz : https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ICANN68+-+June+2020
10:12:40 From Javier Rua-Jovet : Thxx @Gisella!
10:14:19 From Michel TCHONANG : Thank Gisella
10:16:13 From Justine Chew : What does "RPMs" stand for?
10:16:36 From Hadia Elminiawi : right protection mechanisms
10:17:16 From Justine Chew : I don't think so Hadia. Not in this instance.
10:17:19 From Hadia Elminiawi : *Rights
10:17:52 From Justine Chew : I'm on the RPM PDP WG, I should know ;)
10:17:57 From Claudia Ruiz : RPM: Remote Participation Manager / Staff member managing call
10:18:04 From Justine Chew : AH!
10:18:11 From Justine Chew : Thank you!
10:18:13 From León Felipe Sánchez Ambía : I need to leave now. My apologies for not staying till the end
10:18:19 From León Felipe Sánchez Ambía : thanks again everyone!
10:18:22 From Claudia Ruiz : You’re welcome
10:18:22 From Javier Rua-Jovet : ciao Leon!
10:18:29 From Claudia Ruiz : Thank you for joining Leon!
10:18:32 From León Felipe Sánchez Ambía : abrazo Javier!
10:18:34 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye León
10:18:37 From León Felipe Sánchez Ambía : thanks Claudia
10:18:39 From Priyatosh Jana : thank you all
10:18:44 From León Felipe Sánchez Ambía : thanks Cheryl
10:18:54 From John More : Thanks. Very helpful. Have another meeting.
10:19:10 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Thanks and bye Leon
10:20:22 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Claudia thanks sure -
10:20:27 From Hadia Elminiawi : :)
10:20:39 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Thank you!-) Surpeise-)
10:20:53 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Surprise*-)
10:22:15 From shreedeep rayamajhi : 28 may smwg meeting
10:22:40 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thanks shreedeep
10:23:02 From Chokri ben romdhane : congrats @natlia and @shreedeep
10:23:24 From shreedeep rayamajhi : thank u chokri and hadia
10:23:25 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Thank you @Chorki, pls join us!-)
10:23:56 From Hadia Elminiawi : Congrats Natalia
10:24:13 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Thank you @Hadia!
10:27:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : ouch
10:27:55 From shreedeep rayamajhi : ohhhh
10:28:00 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : loud noise on the Adigo
10:28:01 From Justine Chew : what on earth?
10:28:08 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : like a whistle
10:28:09 From Javier Rua-Jovet : that was tough
10:28:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Maureen said there was disturbance but WOW
10:28:16 From Jonathan Zuck : @Justine, are you SURE it’s earth?….
10:28:18 From Heidi Ullrich : 2020 Elections Workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2020+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections%2C+Selections+and+Appointments
10:28:38 From Heidi Ullrich : AFRALO is extended
10:30:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye for now then
10:31:06 From Heidi Ullrich : Thank you, All. Next ALAC calls will be during ICANN68.
10:31:07 From Herb Waye : stay safe everyone and wash those hands!! :-)
10:31:09 From Justine Chew : @Jonathan, Twilight Zone
10:31:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : excellent turn out
10:31:18 From Adam Peake : thank you.
10:31:20 From Satish Babu : Thanks and bye!
10:31:20 From Aris Ignacio : Thanks everyone and stay safe!
10:31:21 From Joanna Kulesza : Thanks all
10:31:23 From Javier Rua-Jovet : thxxx bye!
10:31:23 From Bastiaan Goslings : thanks all
10:31:24 From Adrian Schmidt : Thanks!!! Have a blessed rest of the week and stay safe!
10:31:24 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Thanks and bye to all
10:31:25 From Hadia Elminiawi : bye
10:31:25 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : thank you Maureen and all!
10:31:25 From Sarah Kiden : Bye
10:31:26 From Jaewon Son : thank you!
10:31:34 From Priyatosh Jana : bye
10:31:40 From Michel TCHONANG : thank bye
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