Zoom chat: 2020-05-18 ALS Mobilization Working Party Call

13:01:31 From David Mackey : You always count Cheryl. lol. :-)
13:02:37 From Sarah Kiden : Yes, there was one on email
13:02:37 From Sarah Kiden : From Eduardo
13:03:25 From David Mackey : Happy Victoria Day from Canada!!
13:03:39 From Amrita Choudhury : Hi everyone
13:04:20 From Herb Waye : Greetings
13:04:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Hi @Herb
13:05:12 From Michelle DeSmyter : Welcome Judith
13:05:20 From Judith Hellerstein : sorry late. i had to hunt for the passcode
13:06:09 From Michelle DeSmyter : Welcome Justine & Silvia
13:06:19 From silvia.vivanco : Hello all
13:07:21 From Justine Chew : Apologies for joining late. I had a connection delay.
13:12:57 From Nadira Al Araj : (Comments: I like it, un-associated ALS, they belong to general RALO and not to any specific ralo)
13:13:02 From Judith Hellerstein : there is. special interest groups
13:13:08 From Judith Hellerstein : we are global
13:13:25 From Heidi Ullrich : ICANN Bylaws on ALSes and geographic region:
13:13:25 From Heidi Ullrich : (viii) Each RALO shall be comprised of self-supporting At-Large Structures within its Geographic Region that have been certified to meet the requirements of the RALO's Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN according to Section 12.2(d)(ix). If so provided by its Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN, a RALO may also include individual Internet users who are citizens or residents of countries within the RALO's Geographic Region.
13:13:45 From silvia.vivanco : Link to ICANN By - laws: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en#article12
13:15:50 From Heidi Ullrich : @Alan, how is this an option when the Bylaws state ALSes need to be within a RALO?
13:18:01 From silvia.vivanco : Kindly note that this option is outside the legal framework established within ICANN By-Laws
13:19:02 From Judith Hellerstein : @pastor peters. within ISOC we have a global sig, such as our Accessibility special interest groups whose leaders are from the us, Australia, and Pakistan. We would love to be able to join as an ALS and choose one of our two regions where our leadership is based
13:19:37 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : Yes Agree with @Heidi point , my question do we have an ALS who doent want to be part from 5 RALO REGION
13:19:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes I am not sure how attractive it would be at all
13:19:54 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : my answer C/
13:20:24 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : anyone must come a Region
13:20:59 From Judith Hellerstein : i would like a or b
13:21:29 From Nadira Al Araj : @Abdeldjalil, in ISOC there are the special interest global chapters
13:22:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : There are entities *such as for example a Special Interest Group relating to perhaps Accessibility and the Domain Name System) See above that are not naturally Homed in any particular Geo Region, their Leadership for example could come from all 5 Regions
13:22:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : that is the type of edge case this refers to
13:24:52 From David Mackey : Agreed. @Cheryl. The Internet enables non-geographic self-organization that was not possible previously. It may not be a common way to organize right now, but it may be common in the future, and we should be at the leading edge of adapting to this new type of human organization.
13:25:16 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : Yes @Nadira i know iam member of Blockchain SIG , i think that ALS must come from incorporated in one country before join RALO so if we apply B or A how can we dial with that
13:25:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes indeed David
13:25:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : ALSes do *not* need to be Incorporated entities
13:26:02 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : that concept is *not* unic=versal
13:26:06 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : universal
13:26:41 From David Mackey : I don’t think it’s an urgent problem to solve right now, but we should be open to looking at how to handle it in the future
13:26:57 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : and what will be the role of advice from Regional ICANN Staff during ALS process of accrediation
13:27:06 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Some RALOs just trust those they appoint to act in their best interst some hove binding Rules
13:27:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : have
13:29:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We are not seeing that text on the screen
13:29:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : please scroll to match the conversation
13:35:23 From Sarah Kiden : Agree with Yrjo that we need to mention who will need to be part
13:35:26 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I thought we had made that more general not so specific by using the term Leadershi[
13:35:27 From Heidi Ullrich : @All, I need to drop now for an internal call. Alp will remain on the call.
13:35:58 From Alperen Eken : Heads up, I commented on the ALS Accreditation Google Doc about the timeframe - "If time is added in factoring response time from applicants, GSE and ISOC, et al, then 90 days is a suitable time frame. Please also make note that there may be "batches" of applications at a time, and currently only 1 staff members processes these applications (not the case in the past, where 3 staff members were responsible for due diligence, accreditation, wiki and website set up, ALAC vote, etc)."
13:40:10 From David Mackey : sneaky. lol
13:40:31 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : But transparent (it was a public act ;-)
13:40:57 From Yrjo Lansipuro : Thank you, Alan. A generic “leadership council” is fine with me
13:42:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I am not following
13:43:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I have nor has ALan never been a RALO Leader
13:43:47 From Justine Chew : Make it discretionary to each RALO?
13:44:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : That is the preference and intent Justine
13:44:23 From Justine Chew : Our colleague needs to understand that.
13:44:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : allow for RALO discretion BUT limited in a way that allows for appropriate privacy and concerns
13:44:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : that some have in some Regions
13:44:55 From silvia.vivanco : Yes, discretionary is the approach based on practice so far
13:45:08 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Indeed Silvia
13:46:08 From David Mackey : I agree with Silvia
13:49:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Exactly @Alan, and those with access need to understand and undertake the responsibility of document and information control
13:49:24 From Sarah Kiden : Option :-)
13:49:37 From Sarah Kiden : Noted!
13:52:08 From Judith Hellerstein : Naralo we would like to send it out to each of the als reps or put it on a private google doc for their review
13:52:45 From Judith Hellerstein : just the application was sent to the als reps
13:52:54 From Judith Hellerstein : that is fine with me
13:55:33 From Justine Chew : If different RALO opts for varying processes, would this affect the expected time for completion?
13:55:56 From Sarah Kiden : I have a comment about Google docs but I’ll add it to the document
13:57:57 From Sarah Kiden : +1 Cheryl
13:58:19 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : But we need to get that accepted and noted IN the applications from now on etc.,
13:58:25 From Justine Chew : Whatever processes a RALO adopts must be compliant with personal data protection rules
13:58:42 From silvia.vivanco : Fully agree with CLO
13:58:42 From Nadira Al Araj : +1 Justine
13:59:21 From Amrita Choudhury : Thank you
13:59:23 From Herb Waye : stay safe everyone
13:59:25 From Judith Hellerstein : thanks
13:59:28 From Bastiaan Goslings : thanks all
13:59:30 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : Bye , Thanks
13:59:30 From Sarah Kiden : Thank you all!
13:59:31 From David Mackey : Thanks Alan and everyone :-)
13:59:34 From silvia.vivanco : Thank you all !
13:59:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye Use SUGGEST Mode and COmments in G Docs
13:59:46 From silvia.vivanco : Have a lovey rest of the day