Zoom chat: 2020-05-05 ICANN68 Planning Committee Call

13:59:15 From davekissoondoyal : Hello everyone
13:59:35 From Michelle DeSmyter : Hello and welcome everyone, we will be starting momentarily.
13:59:45 From Hadia Elminiawi : hello all
14:00:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : top of the hour
14:04:17 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I prefer UTC anyway
14:07:08 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thank you fr the avoidance of major clashes woith GNSO Policy sessions
14:12:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thanks G well understood
14:13:59 From Gisella Gruber : NOTE - Outstanding is the AFRALO -AfrICANN Meeting which can be ‘out of these core ALAC sessions’
14:14:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and in a time to better suit the attendees
14:16:27 From Heidi Ullrich : Action Items are taken at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+items%3A+2020-05-05+ICANN68+Planning+Committee+Call
14:16:45 From Gisella Gruber : @Cheryl - AFRALO would be better in the last 2 slots … more in their ‘morning’ to capture the audience
14:17:28 From Michelle DeSmyter : Welcome Daniel
14:17:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes something that best suits the more UTC time
14:17:46 From DANIEL K. NANGHAKA : thank you - I was patient
14:17:53 From Michelle DeSmyter : :)
14:19:31 From Michelle DeSmyter : Welcome Barrack
14:20:37 From Barrack Otieno : Thank you, apologies i was in another meeting that went over time
14:25:58 From Yrjo Lansipuro : @Sébastien: Am ALAC-GAC meeting is being planned
14:27:47 From Heidi Ullrich : @Seb, we haven’t listed the GAC/ALAC as the date/time , etc. still needs to be confirmed.
14:29:11 From Heidi Ullrich : Perhaps we can call them ICANN Prep Week - 8 June and the At-Large Prep Week - 15 June.
14:29:49 From Gisella Gruber : ALAC-GAC meeting will be in the ‘GAC’ Zoom room so on their time but we will find a mutual suitable time
14:29:54 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Spreading the Load *IS* important YES @Maureen
14:33:54 From Joanna Kulesza : re: mailing list: should we add "PIR/org sale takeaways for MS decision making - end user perspective"?
14:35:41 From Hadia Elminiawi : I don't think there is a need to include PIR/org issue - it is a concluded one
14:36:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I agree @Hadia, and if not done then it will be in the courts rather than on our tble at the time
14:36:59 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Cheryl yes indeed
14:37:02 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes a Virtual Meeting is NOT the same fit as a F2F
14:37:29 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : we need a playbook for each not try to squeeze one into the other
14:37:32 From Jonathan Zuck : Seems like that discussion of how to handle these meetings should happen BEFORE the meeting, no?
14:37:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : If only JZ PPPPPP
14:38:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Covid stuff should be bundled IMO
14:38:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Not Probably it DOES
14:39:09 From Jonathan Zuck : “Conditions” under which PDPs will be closed
14:40:45 From Sébastien Bachollet : @JZ it is to short before vICANN68 but it is a topic that need to be handle for a longer period than just the 67&68
14:41:27 From Holly Raiche : Yes please - how do they involve us in development of policy generally
14:42:31 From Holly Raiche : So NOT reviewing PDP3 - but in light of PDP3 - how do they involve us
14:42:37 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : I think we should go with discussion that are open and not closed
14:43:57 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : I agree with Cheryl on this - JZ can lead this discussion on how to engage in Policy Development Process
14:44:19 From Holly Raiche : Yes - how do we engage in policy - but also what other steps can GNSO take to listen - given that is what their review said they would
14:44:24 From Jonathan Zuck : I thought there WAS one of the versions that was closed. sorry.
14:45:22 From Holly Raiche : I’m not talking about reopening the PDP debate - I am talking about steps the GNSO can take
14:45:26 From Jonathan Zuck : Exactly! Enforcement of whatever they are
14:45:33 From Holly Raiche : ALSO - REALLY also support PICS
14:45:43 From Jonathan Zuck : “Take your PIC!”
14:46:20 From Holly Raiche : And talk about PICS - those that can be enforced (but aren’t) and those that can’t - and why and what can b e done
14:47:24 From Joanna Kulesza : +1 Seb & JZ on developing a strategy for virtual meetings
14:48:11 From Holly Raiche : Also agree on virtual meetings
14:48:13 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Sebastain totally agree
14:49:11 From Holly Raiche : So maybe involvement of ‘outreach and engagement’
14:49:31 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Indeed Yrjó
14:50:14 From Joanna Kulesza : I like the PDPs proposal @Holly, it might be useful to postpone this to 1) f2f + 2) when we have that icann learn course up and running as a framework to refer to.
14:52:09 From Holly Raiche : @ Joanna - sounds like a plan. But at some point, we need to have GNSO at the table and ask them how they can involve multi-stakeholders (aside from the public comment period)
14:52:29 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Holly agree
14:52:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Holly please review my presentation to the CPWG on the relevant details of PDP 3.0
14:53:57 From Holly Raiche : @ Cheryl - will do. But I still want the GNSO at the table for a discussion
14:55:44 From Heidi Ullrich : @Seb, that will be an At-Large Prep Week CPWG single issue?
14:56:13 From Joanna Kulesza : Fully agreed@Holly, might be even better to make that table non-virtual, that's all I'm saying.
14:56:24 From Holly Raiche : Maybe the PICS session could involve the GNSO, including NCUC etc - so round table discussion.
14:56:51 From Holly Raiche : @ Joanna - I think it will be a ‘virtual’ table for a while.
14:57:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Well hard to discuss any form of Contract Commitment *without* contracted Parties I would venture
14:57:42 From Holly Raiche : Agree with Hadia
14:57:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : but the At-Large and NCSG could navel gaize and mutually moan and groan together
14:57:47 From Hadia Elminiawi : As one related topic
14:58:14 From Heidi Ullrich : @Hadia, was that during ICANN68 or during the At-Large Prep week? What were the two topics?
14:58:20 From Sébastien Bachollet : @Heidi yes and during the icann68 week a round table
14:58:21 From Holly Raiche : @ CLO - hopefully if a session is well moderated, they won’t
14:58:44 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : you clearly miss my point @Holly never mnd
14:59:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Agree totally JZ
15:00:56 From Jonathan Zuck : I might be missing the flow of the conversation. If so, I apologize. Happy to prepare a webinar or two for the prep week and happy to put together a policy panel for 86
15:00:58 From Jonathan Zuck : 68
15:03:39 From Hadia Elminiawi : I agree that we need to interact with other community groups and since the COVID is already covered, then it does not make much sense to have a "DNS abuse & COVID" session
15:03:47 From Holly Raiche : But the CCT report suggested that the DO report
15:06:22 From Jonathan Zuck : Sorry, I didn’t mean to ramble on
15:06:36 From Jonathan Zuck : Yes, we can discuss it across the table
15:06:42 From Holly Raiche : Thanks JZ - surely all three issues need to be discussed
15:06:53 From Jonathan Zuck : That’s easy to get participation from others
15:07:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : O we have a short list?
15:07:52 From Jonathan Zuck : And UA should be a community wide discussion OR it could be an ACTIVATION session which would excite ME!
15:08:40 From Holly Raiche : @ JZ - prefer the activation - and have a briefing from UA ‘ambassadors’
15:09:03 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : PI/V/M-Commitments ; UA and Engagement options Virtual and 'traditional (inclusive of Meeting9s) design and engagement in general
15:09:18 From Gisella Gruber : Every week
15:09:22 From Gisella Gruber : Same time, next week
15:09:32 From Jonathan Zuck : Do we have a workspace for these or a google doc? I can draft some session descriptions to make this all al little more concrete
15:09:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yup
15:09:43 From davekissoondoyal : ok
15:09:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We do need a workspace JZ
15:10:01 From Gisella Gruber : We have this page
15:10:07 From Gisella Gruber : https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ICANN68+Planning+Committee
15:10:08 From Hadia Elminiawi : thank you bye
15:10:11 From davekissoondoyal : Thanks and bye to all
15:10:16 From Gisella Gruber : Will add a more specific page for you to populate
15:10:17 From Joanna Kulesza : thanks all