Zoom Chat: ATLAS III Plenary 2 - Conflict and Influence

08:32:29 From Harold Arcos : Welcome Antonio! Nice to e-see you again.
Antonio is one of our LACRALO Members selected to participate in ATLAS III but he can't travel by visa issues. That situation do not avoid he be active on-line.
08:33:59 From Isaac Maposa : hi everyone
08:38:17 From michelle.desmyter : Welcome Harold and Isaac!
08:40:27 From Isaac Maposa : Thanks Michelle.
08:40:29 From Harold Arcos : Welcome Vrikson! Nice to e-see you again.  Vrikson is one of our LACRALO Members selected to participate in ATLAS III but he can't travel by visa issues. That situation do not avoid he be active on-line.
08:41:46 From Harold Arcos : Thanks Michelle,, nice to be here. We are ready.
08:49:21 From michelle.desmyter : Welcome Vrikson!
08:49:58 From michelle.desmyter : https://community.icann.org/display/ATLAS3/At-Large+Summit+III+Home
08:52:21 From Heidi Ullrich : Summit Wiki workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/ATLAS3/At-Large+Summit+III+Home
08:53:39 From Raitme Citterio : thanks
08:53:42 From Isaac Maposa : I am remote
08:53:58 From Raitme Citterio : i am remote
08:54:03 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome!
08:54:08 From Heidi Ullrich : The ATLAS III website: https://atlarge.icann.org/events/atlas-3-en
08:54:15 From Harold Arcos : From LACRALO 4 online,
08:54:16 From gisella.gruber : Welcome to all our Remote Participants!
08:54:21 From Seun Ojedeji : Hey Isaac/Raiteme welcome!
08:54:51 From Raitme Citterio : thanks harold
08:55:03 From Raitme Citterio : hey @seun
08:55:43 From Heidi Ullrich : The ATLAS III workspace is at: https://community.icann.org/display/ATLAS3/At-Large+Summit+III+Home
08:56:06 From Heidi Ullrich : The key Resources workspace is: https://community.icann.org/display/ATLAS3/ATLAS+III+Resource+Workspace
08:59:08 From Alfredo Calderon (ISOCPR) : Comunicar, colaborar y. compromiso
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09:15:03 From Raitme Citterio : <COMMENT> as part of Latin America, conflict compared to German culture where conflict is highly productive as a factor that motivates the group to change its vision. <COMMENT>
09:17:16 From Harold Arcos : <COMMENT>A conflict is a stage. A necessary space to move towards a new state of being, whether institutional or personal. At the beginning of the path of change we approach the Necessary Point of Conflict where the differences will be found, the contradiction will be sharpened and then the Leadership is needed the energy needed to finish leaving behind what will be changed and to specify what will be born again .<COMMENT>
09:22:32 From Harold Arcos : <COMMENT>The current times of Evolution, Leadership is required to have the energy to advance the necessary changes. Especially based on the diagnoses expressed in the recent at-large review.<COMMENT>
09:23:49 From Sivasubramanian M : <comment> On kinds of resistance seen in ICANN: In this Community that is largely defined by a shared pursuit, resistance does not fit in, but arises largely because of mind sets
09:26:19 From Raitme Citterio : <COMMENT>The conflict within icann has different connotations of how it is persive in relation to how the conflict is approached within other different environments for example in ietf meetings, where for people not initiated into the culture of the event, the conflict can be perceived in a different and even offensive way without the need to be so. <COMMENT>
09:26:55 From Sivasubramanian M : "Multilateral" mindset, "Public Interest is contrary to business interest" or "business of business is business" minset, "this is how it is done, this is how it works" mindset, geographical mindsets....
09:27:14 From Sivasubramanian M : Read with comment above
09:29:29 From Sivasubramanian M : <comment-trivial> need a break before lunch break, as lunch is work today.
09:31:17 From Lutz Donnerhacke : Unfortunately politics does not work this way. Trying to understand the other party and accept their narratives is the sure way to lose everything. And ICANN is only about politics.
09:32:32 From Roberto : @Siva, if lunch is work we need a real lunch before or after that 
09:33:35 From Alfredo Calderon (ISOCPR) : @Lutz, it is just that one size does not fit all. In politics, each country has is own cultural and set agenda that is difficult to accommodate in a consensus setting.
09:35:30 From Lutz Donnerhacke : @Alfredo, I've the article17 discussion in Brussels on the other screen. Internet censorship is not a topic which can be discussed in a cooperative way.
09:36:57 From Alfredo Calderon (ISOCPR) : @Lutz, completely agree.
09:49:04 From michelle.desmyter : @Remote participants - we are currently in a two minute breakout discussion, will resume momentarily
09:49:56 From Raitme Citterio : ok thanks
09:50:09 From Isaac Maposa : Ok, noted. Thanks.
09:52:42 From michelle.desmyter : @Remote participants - we are resuming now
09:53:04 From michelle.desmyter : We are actually going to resume in 1 minute - thank you so much
09:53:08 From Harold Arcos : Thanks Michelle, we are discussing our ways to face a possible conflict. Doing exercise proposed.
09:53:21 From michelle.desmyter : Wonderful!
09:55:01 From michelle.desmyter : Resuming now
09:55:28 From Isaac Maposa : Noted.
10:14:29 From Harold Arcos : <COMMENT>Western culture interprets Ying and Yang as Good or Bad but that is a dichotomous vision. That oriental symbol represents and recognizes the Pairs of Opposites in every manifestation of Life, including our thoughts and then it makes sense to seek the Balance in our lives and especially in the search for the Construction of the Group Decision that would be the sum of all Diversities together, with respect, recognizing the differences and transforming them from the Opposition towards Complementation.<COMMENT>