12:58:05 From Amrita Choudhury : Hi Everyone
12:58:28 From Alfredo Calderon : Hello to all.
12:59:00 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome back, Joanna!
13:00:04 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Hello everyone
13:00:38 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : it is not that clear
13:01:07 From Joanna Kulesza : Thanks Heidi!
13:02:57 From Heidi Ullrich : Action Items are available at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+items%3A+ICANN69+Planning+Committee+Call
13:07:24 From Michelle DeSmyter : Welcome to Gisella on the phone
13:08:40 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Hello all, sorry I am a little bit late
13:09:08 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : NP Natalia qwew just done with the AIs
13:10:36 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Thanks Cheryl!
13:11:30 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Attending other prep week webinars
13:11:53 From Joanna Kulesza : Would this be a good time for JZ's webinar?
13:12:58 From Heidi Ullrich : @Maureen, is this the schedule you are looking for?
13:13:55 From Sivasubramanian M : Is week 1 the prep week, or is there a prep week, week 1 (AC/SOs) and week 2 for plenaries?
13:14:22 From Amrita Choudhury : Agree with JZ, having a session on what to expect from ICANN69 from At Large perspective
13:14:42 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : @Aiva the latter
13:15:01 From Sivasubramanian M : Thank you Cheryl
13:15:01 From Sébastien Bachollet : Prep week, week 1 and Week 2 (@Siva)
13:15:19 From Sivasubramanian M : Thank you Sebastien
13:15:41 From Sivasubramanian M : That would be very good
13:18:46 From Heidi Ullrich : PREP week does NOT need to be Hamburg time
13:18:49 From Holly Raiche : The same would be true for the APAC region -
13:18:52 From Gisella Gruber : Prep week is NOT Hamburg time
13:19:07 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : it is in UTC
13:19:23 From Gisella Gruber : However, to get interpretation, we need to get the timings and dates of our webinars ASAP
13:20:14 From Heidi Ullrich : Thanks, Gisella.
13:20:23 From Heidi Ullrich : @Maureen could we agree to a slot this week?
13:20:43 From Heidi Ullrich : What would be the title/subject of this At-Large session during Prep week?
13:20:47 From Holly Raiche : 1400 UTC is NOT fantastic for the APAC region
13:21:01 From Amrita Choudhury : I think times should be considered based on all regions
13:21:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Which is crappy for APAC
13:21:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : IT IS HORRIBLE FOR APAC
13:21:47 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and that was NOT an accidental CAPS lock
13:22:10 From Heidi Ullrich : To confirm, At-Large will plan for 1 prep week session, correct?
13:22:11 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Real challenge it is... @Amrita, but we should
13:22:19 From Holly Raiche : 1300 UTC is just okay
13:22:39 From Holly Raiche : Sorry
13:22:44 From Hanan Khatib : 13:00 is oki
13:22:47 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : As long as NA, AF and EU times are kind allis just fine situation NORMAL for ICANN
13:22:49 From Amrita Choudhury : There are five regions we should atleast try something which suits atleast most people if not all.
13:23:10 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Why do we even BOTHEr Amrita!
13:23:11 From Amrita Choudhury : Times should not just suit one region or one country
13:23:29 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : They have for 20 years remember
13:23:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : in fact these days it is actually an improvement
13:24:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : dor more time zones not in APAC
13:24:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : OK ranyt over I promise
13:29:22 From Heidi Ullrich : Week 1
Policy Session topics: 1) Media Content Directive - The new GDPR? ; 2) Cybercrime Treaty proposed by the Council of Europe; 3) Vulnerability Disclosure
13:29:40 From Holly Raiche : All three sound really interesting
13:30:28 From Joanna Kulesza : Indeed Heidi, 3) would be Vulnerabilities Equities Processes
13:30:39 From Heidi Ullrich : Thanks, Joanna.
13:31:15 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : It is listed in that Agenda Holly YES
13:31:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : listed
13:31:27 From Amrita Choudhury : They are all excellent sessions of interest Joanna. However is it within ICANNs mandate?
13:32:20 From Joanna Kulesza : Amrita, happy to elaborate but I believe there are close links in each of them, with the two ICANN.org papers making a relevant point. I'll share link in the chat for you to take a peak.
13:32:40 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond : happy to speak about it now or later
13:32:46 From Holly Raiche : My presentation will touch on both the EU and UK developments - but concentrating on Australia
13:33:01 From Joanna Kulesza : UN cybercrime treaty: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/government-engagement-publications-2020-03-02-en
13:34:07 From Holly Raiche : The end-user perspective for the digital platforms topic is its discussion on privacy and the personal information collected (without real users consent)
13:34:35 From Judith Hellerstein : need to switch to my iPhone so will be on 2 devices for a minute
13:35:49 From Joanna Kulesza : 2) EU Digital Services Act https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/eu-policy-update-digital-servies-act-15jul20-en.pdf
13:36:07 From Joanna Kulesza : 3) vulnerability disclosure https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/vulnerability-disclosure-05aug13-en.pdf https://www.lawfareblog.com/future-vulnerabilities-equities-processes-around-world
13:36:29 From Joanna Kulesza : These documents provide a background for the link between proposed topics and ICANN's remit.
13:38:32 From Joanna Kulesza : Thank you @Siva, I agree. Also, please let us note that PDP was also considered beyond scope until GDPR came up. We might want to learn from that lesson.
13:39:38 From Sébastien Bachollet : It is where we disagree JZ
13:41:02 From Sivasubramanian M : Thank you Joanna
13:41:13 From Joanna Kulesza : @JZ Once the definition of DNS Abuse included content we moved well beyond the picket fence, no?;)
13:41:31 From Heidi Ullrich : @JZ, would those be fully open session or just for At-Large?
13:41:38 From Holly Raiche : Agree JK
13:42:08 From Heidi Ullrich : Roberto’s group will likely not be ready with a paper by ICANN69.
13:42:23 From Alfredo Calderon : Part of the DNS Abuse conversation — http://dnsabuseframework.org/
13:42:33 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Makes perfect sense to me @JZ
13:42:46 From Holly Raiche : I like that topic - post GDPR
13:43:10 From Heidi Ullrich : At-Large policy sessions being proposed: Policy Session topics: 1) Media Content Directive - The new GDPR? ; 2) UN Cybercrime Treaty proposed by the Council of Europe; 3) Vulnerabilities Equities Processes
; 4) Educational Outreach on DNS Abuse (using break out/whiteboards); 5) Consumer Protection post-GDPR;
13:43:48 From Sivasubramanian M : @Jonathan Some of these policy topics, so called 'beyond scope', if as you recommend, are debated outside ICANN, with ICANN staying away from these topics, however abstract, would come back to the ICANN sphere, as policy decisions made elsewhere, as decision that would especially affect the GNSO. Would you prefer that and stay away from these topics?
13:44:49 From Sivasubramanian M : By this logic, we could ask the GNSO to vote for ALAC in any proposal to exceed the mandate.
13:44:57 From Heidi Ullrich : To confirm - there would be 4 policy/1 outreach session (Educational outreach) during week 1
13:45:05 From Holly Raiche : I do like something from the Registry/registrar discussion on business models - and listen to what PIR does - and why they can’t - or not
13:46:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : well said @Amrita
13:46:46 From Jonathan Zuck : Definitely
13:47:23 From Holly Raiche : Maybe a discussion on what the various governments are doing on ‘security’ - and what information they would like access to - (part of the discussion on a post GDPR world)
13:47:34 From Joanna Kulesza : +1 Holly
13:47:43 From Hanan Khatib : Thanks Amrita good idea, I tried to attend other Ralos unfo
13:47:49 From Holly Raiche : (a VERY live issue here)
13:47:50 From Sivasubramanian M : @holly various is good
13:48:09 From Alfredo Calderon : @Amrita, it will also be a good opportunity for Fellows to hear what is going on in a few ALs and get an idea where they could volunteer.
13:48:50 From Jonathan Zuck : Meetings!
13:49:02 From Joanna Kulesza : @Holly I believe we should embrace our mandate as bottom-up end user reps and that's one of the ways to do it. This is also something I believe to have heard in @Yrjo's earlier interventions.
13:49:16 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : +1 @Alfredo. and exchange the best practice and encourage other to act
13:49:22 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : meeting room!
13:49:22 From Hanan Khatib : unfortunately the session has no translation for the sessions were in other languages and no English
13:49:24 From Yrjo Lansipuro : A virtual meeting is actually good opportunity for hearing from ALS’es that would not be present at a F2F meeting
13:49:29 From Holly Raiche : @ Siva - it could be a session as long as others also talk briefly on what their governments are doing
13:49:49 From Gisella Gruber : I have to choose when completing the meeting bookings form so please let me know as yes, meeting room will be default choice
13:49:52 From Amrita Choudhury : +1 Alfredo and Natalia
13:50:22 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : great idea @Amrita, thank you
13:50:23 From Heidi Ullrich : @Amrita, would the ALS meeting be hosted by the SC on O/E?
13:50:58 From Amrita Choudhury : @ Heidi could you elaborate on Sc on O/E
13:51:08 From Sivasubramanian M : @holly even if the topic is broadbased, there could be focused presentations - two or three select geographical issues within the broadbased sessions as examples, cases in point
13:51:11 From Amrita Choudhury : sorry not familiar with the abbrev.
13:51:24 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Outreach and Engagement
13:51:32 From Heidi Ullrich : Sub-committee on Outreach and Engagement
13:51:32 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Outreach*
13:51:33 From Amrita Choudhury : oh ok :)
13:51:48 From Jonathan Zuck : Where?
13:53:22 From Amrita Choudhury : @Heidi:It could be placed anywhere based on what everyone suggests. If required I can share a small writeup, where all can comment and improvise.
13:56:19 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : and Belarus now as new case of Internet shutdown
13:56:33 From Sivasubramanian M : +1 for two sessions
13:56:48 From JUDITH' hellerstein : I would agree with you @OCL
13:56:51 From Sivasubramanian M : as happened in many recent ICANN meetings
13:58:25 From Jonathan Zuck : Gotta jump off. I have my homework
13:58:46 From Heidi Ullrich : Which week would OCL’s session be?
13:59:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Perhaps also hear *from* a digital platform or 2>
13:59:37 From Maureen Hilyard : Because it has a Board participant and other countries it might be a good session for Week 2.
13:59:49 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond : I propose: - AUS - Europe - US - other places around the world
14:00:07 From Heidi Ullrich : I’ll note OCL’s session (sponsored by the ALAC) under week 2
14:00:12 From Heidi Ullrich : 90 min?
14:00:29 From Maureen Hilyard : Yes give him 90mins :)
14:00:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : He needs more than 90
14:00:58 From Yrjo Lansipuro : @Holly: there is also an UNCTAD report “On restoring competition in “winner-took-all” digital platform markets. UNCTAD Research Paper No. 40
14:01:13 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : he has at least 40 of admin and then the sessions
14:01:49 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : minimum 90min better 120min and I support ocl proposal
14:01:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : so it needs 120 at least
14:02:00 From Holly Raiche : A Yrjo - yes, it is a terrific report - and a good review of what is happening
14:02:14 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond : 90 minutes was for the complete session --- which include 45 minutes on the discussion. If Maureen wants to make the 90 minutes discussion then it would make it 120 minutes
14:02:15 From Sivasubramanian M : +1 for 120
14:02:31 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond : 90 + 20 + 20 = 130 minutes actually
14:02:35 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : +1 too, 120 min
14:02:59 From Heidi Ullrich : Week 2
Olivier Crepin-Leblond to organize EG-IG Session on Digital Platforms and Regulation on behalf of the ALAC. Session to be 120 mins.
Wrap Up session to be 90 mins.
14:03:19 From Sivasubramanian M : @ocl include a coffee break and make it 130=20
14:03:24 From Sivasubramanian M : 130+20
14:03:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and block 5 clashed with something else did it not??
14:04:06 From Heidi Ullrich : Regional Leaders meeting is in Week 1 90 mins
14:04:13 From Heidi Ullrich : Host region Chairs.
14:04:34 From Sébastien Bachollet : All slots clashed
14:04:54 From Sébastien Bachollet : 4 with Board / SSAC
14:05:05 From Sébastien Bachollet : 5 with Board / cc NSO
14:05:31 From Amrita Choudhury : Thank you and bye everyone.
14:05:39 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Thanks and bye to all
14:05:42 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : thank you so much!
14:05:45 From Sivasubramanian M : Thank you
14:05:46 From Joanna Kulesza : thanks all, bye
14:05:46 From Alfredo Calderon : Stay safe and well.
14:05:47 From Hanan Khatib : Thank you
14:05:47 From Heidi Ullrich : Thanks, All,.
14:05:49 From Adrian Schmidt : Have a great day! Thanks
