Terri Agnew:Welcome all to the Finance and Budget Sucbommittee call on Thursday, 02 October 2014 at 1400 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/5xfxAg
Raf Fatani:I need to send my apologies if I keep disconnecting
Raf Fatani:I'm on a bad connection and all my calls have been terrible today
Terri Agnew:Hi Raf, so sorry to hear that, if I see you disconnect before start time I will note your apology.
Terri Agnew:Recording of this call will be available later today on meeting page
Raf Fatani:thank you terri
Terri Agnew:Just as a reminder this call will start in 26 minutes
Terri Agnew:Welcome Allan
Yuliya Morenets:Good afternoon
Terri Agnew:Welcome Yuliya
Terri Agnew:As a reminder, please mute when not speaking
Terri Agnew:ATLAS II Recommendations : https://community.icann.org/x/SxnxAg
Allan Skuce:Did we get any input from outreach?
Allan Skuce:I agree with Alan that we do need substance before proceeding.
Alan Greenberg:I am afraid that you will likely hear this from me again, but handwaving saying we are important and doing good things, so give us more money, will not be particularly successful.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I agree totally with that sentiment @alan... but given a value proposition and some measurables.. weel. that is different...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Absolutely Dev
Allan Skuce:Looking ahead to ATLAS 3.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:sorry for the delay in logging in -- it took 9 times to try and connect to AC
Allan Skuce:We need some examples to work with.
Terri Agnew:Welcome Darlene Thompson
Allan Skuce:Maybe a small regional discretionary fund.
Darlene Thompson:My apologies for being late - another meeting ran long. Am listening on adobe
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:@Allan: indeed -- there is not such thing at the moment
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:good point @alan
Wolf Ludwig:Plus 1
Wolf Ludwig:Outreach without particular resources has proofed to be difficult!
Yuliya Morenets:agree Wolf
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:IPv6 migration is borderline
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:New gTLDs is within the bounds
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:ICANN Accountability. Or transition of Stewardship of IANA contract for example is within bounds too, in my opinion
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:I would even venture to say that ICANN Studienkreis should be within bounds too
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:Good point, Dev
Wolf Ludwig:Two years ago EURALO co-organized a Briefing event on new gTLDs together with Swiss OFCOM in Berne.
Wolf Ludwig:I tried to get support for sending EURALO members to ICANN Studienkreis meetings several times -- what was always rejected!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:...and yet Fadi attended ICANN studienkreis, didn't he?
Wolf Ludwig:Yes, Fadi attended twice -- last year in Italy and this time in Sofia.
Wolf Ludwig:Well, recommendationswon't hurt anybody ;-)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:dropped from the call -- but I can hear through the AC room
Allan Skuce:agree with Dev about having details in appendices.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:@Dev: the declaration could not be 100 pages long. so it was really summarised. But now that we can split the recommendations, it's possible to expand on them. Pehrps going back to the original TG work would also be of help?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:back
Alan Greenberg:I'm afraid I have to drop off now. Late for other commitment.
Terri Agnew:goodbye Alan
Terri Agnew:We are trying to find echo
Wolf Ludwig:To my memory: ALAC events like the "10 years ALAC anniversary" in Prague wouldn't have been possible without additional sponsoring from Afilias.
Wolf Ludwig:And Afilias has "helpd out" in other cases as well!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:Afilias, Google, Cira, PIR... these are all organisations that have sponsored At-Large events but in every case, it was direct interaction with those organisations that yielded this sponsorship
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:@Dev: yes, that's right. This was the recommendation from members in the group
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:very strange I could hear you no problem
Terri Agnew:@Oliiver, we are dialing back out to you
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:I meant to say that what Dev said is also what I heardon that WG
Allan Skuce:Examples would be beneficial.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:back on
Terri Agnew:Olivier is back on audio
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:@Cheryl -- very scary outcome indeed.
Silvia Vivanco:so f@ Tijani for rec 41 "outside ICANN' will be added?
Wolf Ludwig:Having some other commitments, I need to leave this call now.
Terri Agnew:goodbye Wolf
Allan Skuce:Thanks; other commitments ... Bye
Terri Agnew:goodbye Allan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye all