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ALAC Monthly Teleconference

Meeting Number: AL.ALAC/CC.0812/1

Date: 09 December 2008

Time: 1230-1400 UTC (Please note that the meeting time has changed from previous meetings)

(For the time in various timezones click here)

Interpretation Available: Yes (EN, FR, ES - Simultaneous)

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Participants ALAC: P Vanda Walle, S Bachollet, V Scartezini, C Langdon-Orr , C Aguirre, A Greensberg, A Peake, H Diakite

Apologies: V Vivekandan, TH Nguyen, B Brendler, F Seye Sylla, J Ovidio Salgueiro, W Ludwig

Absent: M El Bashir, R Guerra

Liaisons: R Vansnick (ccTLD council), W Seltzer (Board), A Piazza (dotMOBI)

Guests: D Younger, P Dandjinou (PSC), M Cade (PSC)

Staff: M Langenegger, N Ashton-Hart, MH Bouchoms, H Ullrich

Summary Minutes: 09 December 2008 Summary Minutes

Action Items: 09 December 2008 Action Items

Transcription (EN): 09 December 2008 Transcription

Recording (Stream Server): EN FR ES

Listen to an extract of the recording containing the discussion on At-Large’s involvement in the President’s Strategy Committee: EN, FR, ES

Documents (EN):

A G E N D A

Please note that Agenda item 2 under Items for Discussion may be taken out of order, depending upon when P Dandjinou and M Cade from the President’s Strategy Committee dial into the call.

Standing Agenda Items

  1. Adoption of the Agenda – 1 min
  2. Roll Call Apologies from Members (if any) - 1 min
  3. Adoption of the 25 November 2008 Summary Minutes and the summary minutes from Cairo: 02 November 2008 summary minutes, 03 November 2008 NCUC summary minutes, 04 November 2008 summary minutes, 04 November 2008 Board summary minutes, 05 November 2008 summary minutes
  4. Review of the 25 November 2008 Action Items and the 05 November 2008 Action Items (there were no action items for the other meetings in Cairo) - 8 mins
  5. Review of current status of ALS applications (Google Docs account needed to access) - 5 mins
  6. Reports
  7. ExCom Activities
  8. Liaison reports

 Note: There will be no discussion of liaison reports during the meeting; these links are by way of information only. Any Liaison who wishes a discussion to take place on an item related to their brief, or has an item for which a decision is required, is to use this wiki to edit the sections under Items for Decision, or Items for Discussion, as relevant.

9. Working Group Reports: (Please insert below)
10. RALO Reports: (may be inserted below)

11. Issues to be raised at the ICANN Board Meeting
12. Ratification and Status of ALAC Statements (see Decision Items below)

Items for Decision at This Meeting:

1. Adopt Letter to the Board on public participation in Cairo (Links to items to be raised at the Board Meeting forthcoming)
2. New gTLD Guidebook (finalise working groups for the different modules) ALAC will use the Jan 7th End date for Comment to allow multilingual involvement from our regions.
3. Ratification of an appointed ALAC member to the GNSO OSC (GNSO deadline Dec 8th)and establishment of Support WG
4. At-Large/ALAC Statement on the ALAC WG Review WG mid-point consultation report (Public Comment period ends 12 December 08) - see reference material belowDraft Motion: The ALAC directs that comments will continue to be taken from the At-Large community on the Draft Statement, via comments entered on the wiki page, until 12th December. If no substantive comments are received, the ALAC hereby adopts the text of the present statement as written. If substantive comments are received, then a group composed of (insert members) shall incorporate them into a final text which shall be made available via the ALAC-Announce list not later than 15th December. The ALAC shall vote on ratification of the amended statement statement from 16th to 23rd December inclusive. The ALAC also directs that this procedure, and the present version of the statement, shall be communicated to the BGC ALRWG by the At-Large Staff.
5. Adoption of ALAC Statement on Draft Implementation Plan for IDN ccTLDs (ends 09 January 09) - See reference material belowDraft Motion: The ALAC endorses the Draft Statement, subject to non-substantive editing for grammar and style and to a review by the At-Large IDN Liaison to ensure that the statement remains congruent with the latest IDN Fast Track Draft dated 26th November 2008. If the IDN Liaison believes that the Statement must be amended, these shall be proposed by the Liaison in writing on or before 15th December, and the text as amended shall be posted for a seven day vote to commence on 16th December and conclude on 23rd December.
6. ALAC position on whether the proposed RAA amendment package should be approved by the GNSO. See raa the way forward

Items for Discussion Only

  1. How, when and by whom should the agenda for ALAC meetings be developed? (items proposed by A Peake/C Langdon-Orr; See also email by D Younger )
  2. At-Large’s involvement in the President’s Strategy Committee (P Dandjinou and M Cade will join the discussion)
    1. Next steps (including timeline planning) in ALS<=>RALO<=>ALAC input into the PSC work and IIC
  3. Next steps (including timeline planning) in ALS<=>RALO<=>ALAC input into New gTLD Guidebook

Any Other Business

Reference Materials for Review

ALAC Statement on the ALAC Review WG mid-point consultation reportDraft Statement
Announcement Comment Period ALAC WG mid-point consultation report: English, Español, Français
ALAC Review WG mid-point consultation report: English, Français, Español (PDF)

Draft Implementation Plan for IDN ccTLDs (English only)
Fast Track IDN Implementation Draft Statement (04 November version)
Announcement public comment period
Draft Implementation Plan (26 November 2008 Version) (PDF, 256KB). Previous version will be linked shortly.

In the process of making revisions to this page you have eliminated Patrick's comments. His remarks are reproduced here:

I would like this meeting to address several points:

Meeting format: there is no place to actually talk about substance. The ALAC spends a lot of time on process and nearly none on policy.

Meeting schedules: there is no way to find a time slot convenient for everyone for teleconferences. Hence, it would be fair to "spread the nuisance" by rotating the meetings hours, e.g. rotating between early afternoon for Asia-Pacific on month n, then early afternoon for Europe/Africa on month n+1 and then early afternoon for America on month n+2.

Community input:
How do we get a comprehensive list of requests for comments
How do we prioritize them. Especially, which could be dealt with directly by the ALAC, by a WG of the ALAC, what needs to be sent to the At-Large community ?
Who should take action to ask for community input ? Given that we always work with tight deadlines, we cannot just wait for the next teleconference to launch an internal At-Large process.

contributed by Guest User on Dec 4 8:04pm

I do object to the fact meeting schedules are changed at the last minute. This seems to become a habit with ICANN and this is very unprofessional.
We do have a day job and cannot just rearrange agendas at such a short notice.

contributed by Patrick Vande Walle on Dec 6 9:00am

I'm astounded that the ALAC has nothing to say on the topic of financial costs associated with the fasttrack IDN implementation. Will ICANN treat this rollout in the same fashion as planned for gTLDs (with cost-recovery becoming an operative principle)? Will ICANN seek to recover the technical and policy costs associated with IDN development and levy charges even higher than those it now plans to levy on new gTLD operators? The Draft Implementation Plan states: "viewpoints have been put forward proposing establishment of financial contributions"; what position is the ALAC takening with respect to the financial considerations? It sure would have been nice to see ALAC members discuss this on-line, but of course, the ALAC can't be bothered to actually have on-line discussions about substantive matters, can it?

Danny Younger

contributed by Guest User on Dec 8 5:45am

Re: "The ALAC directs that comments will be taken from the At-Large community on the draft, via comments entered on the wiki page, until 12th December."

Gosh... 3 whole days for community comments! How magnanimous! Perhaps you'll also let us know what wiki page you have in mind...

contributed by Guest User on Dec 8 2:21pm

Questions:

1. Were at-large funds expended on IGF activities, and if so how much? What lessons were learned from the "engagement and facilitation of Internet Users into policy development and processes within ICANN via the ICANN Board's At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC)"? Is there either a workshop transcript or written report available from the participants?

2. Speaking of written reports, I don't believe that I have seen an ALAC SSAC liaison report since last May... Will the ALAC Chair ever take any action to deal with this situation?

3. Does the ALAC plan to continue ignoring public submissions to the RAA-WG?

4. Does the ALAC plan to continue ignoring the fact that the "Comprehensive Review of Registrar Accreditation Processes" has never been started?

5. Does the ALAC plan to continue ignoring the problem of domain name warehousing?

Danny Younger

contributed by Guest User on Dec 9 4:23am

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