Terri Agnew:Welcome to the At-Large ICANN Evolution call on Thursday, 26 January 2017 at 13:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:finding the line
Alan Greenberg:As noted in an e-mail I sent a few hours ago, I am on a WS2 SO;/AC Accountability call for the first hour of this meeting. I will join here once that is over.
carlos vera - isoc ecuador:hello. Carlos Vera from Ecuador
Tatiana Tropina:Hi all
Tatiana Tropina:not true :)
Tatiana Tropina:you can discuss my update while waiting for Alan and Cheryl :)
Maureen Hilyard:You do such great updates Tatiana.. maybe they are all thinking you could do theirs as well :)
Tatiana Tropina:I could have done theirs (well, at least jurisdiction and some others), but I am running to a meeting at work at 13:30 UTC :)
Leon Sanchez:Hello everyone
Evin Erdogdu:Hello all!
Tatiana Tropina:Aha, Leon :-) may be you will have to add something to my HR update :D
carlos vera - isoc ecuador:may I change my audio to Spanish please?
Terri Agnew:@Carlos, you will need to join on the audio spanish channel (1738)
carlos vera - isoc ecuador:thx
Terri Agnew:Welcome Andrei Kolesnikov
Terri Agnew:Welcome Alfredo Calderon
carlos vera - isoc ecuador SPANISH:@terri I Logout and login but no way to choose the 1738
Andrei Kolesnikov:unfort I'm at another meeting, staying silent
Alfredo Calderon:@Terri, thanks. Good Morning, good afternoon, good evening to all from Puerto Rico.
Terri Agnew:@Carlos, you can only join the Spanish channel via telephone, not onthe adobe connect
Terri Agnew:Welcome Sivasubramanian M
Wafa Dahmani:hello everybody
carlos vera - isoc ecuador SPANISH:@terry fail :( thx
Sivasubramanian M:Thanks terri
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Proposed FOI for Human Rights: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_2jtnU7V&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=L7tsS2jh0eHymR037Jsl4VWRsc5BIbYNsX8ErgtX2NA&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Sorry to be late I am only listen only and chat in AC .. as I am with Alan actually attending one of the WS2 meetings we are discussing here... and in my case I am Co Chairing that other call and AC
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):one wonders why this clash had no altsrnatives bbb .... but Sigh
Terri Agnew:@CArlos, would you like the op to dial out to you on the Spanish channel?
Terri Agnew:Welcome Carlton Samuels
Carlton Samuels:Hiay Terri. Morning all
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Framewor kof Interpretation on Human Rights: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_2jtnU7V&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=L7tsS2jh0eHymR037Jsl4VWRsc5BIbYNsX8ErgtX2NA&e=
carlos vera - isoc ecuador SPANISH:@terry I prefer to have access in AC because I'm using my phone. thx
Terri Agnew:@Carlos, if anything changes and ES telephone dial out is needed, just alert us
Maureen Hilyard:Thank you for your report Tatiana
Tatiana Tropina:thanks Maureen :)
Maureen Hilyard:Great work by the group on the FOI
Terri Agnew:Welcome Wale Bakare
Wale Bakare:Hi Terri, thanks
Tatiana Tropina:thanks a lot! I will leave now - thanks all; pity I can't stay for the rest of the call.
Wale Bakare:I wanted to join the audio using my mobile unfortunately didnt accept English code.
Terri Agnew:@Wale, I can also have the opeartor dial out to you if that would help
Wale Bakare:Anyway, i will continue using my computer for both audio and text but might not be able to speak clearly using computer in case
carlos vera - isoc ecuador SPANISH:no audio from León
Carlton Samuels:@Leon: Like herding cats, isn't it? Today is my drop-off day and my grand-daughter refused to get out the vehicle this morning.
Carlton Samuels:@Tijani: Is there any traction outside for an alternative jurisdiction now?
carlos vera - isoc ecuador SPANISH:i have fails in audio. not sure if a fail or my internet. can somebody please confirm?
Carlton Samuels:@Carlos: The audio volume is uneven for me but I still hear
Terri Agnew:@Carlos, audio is good on the adobe connect. It may be best to join via telephone
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Carlton: Carlos is no the Spanish Channel, so there migt be an issue on that channel and the interperters but English channel is all clear
Carlton Samuels:What might affect the work of ICANN? Two things you can be sure of: 1) the contractual arrangements vested in the RA and RAA will not change now or for the forseeable future. 2) The deadbolt of the PTI will not change now or for the forseeable future. Those are the only things that matter.
Carlton Samuels:@OCL: Ah yes, there is that. Thanks.
Wale Bakare:There was disagreement with regard to the questions but the Jurisdiction subgroup has moved on to the next stage.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):as we needed to in my view yes...
Terri Agnew:Guidelines for Good Faith: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_nhWOAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=5j-BAii6qKk1Uh-aEpeTkA6IpU_33N3CWzqsVvvBh6I&e=
Wale Bakare:Sorry about the speaker problem. Just to a bit of clarification on the latest report per jurisdiction subroup - there was another small team within jurisdiction subgroup to work on Chart of ICANN 's Litigation
Carlton Samuels:@OCL: Would love to hear the views on Guidelines for Good Faith, especially the contextual framework. But I have a 9a CCT-RT call to get to so would appreciate if Staff put a mark on the audio portion that I can get to really quickly.
Terri Agnew:SO/AC Accountability: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_lBWOAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=1gAKSYrwCweJFCASESAC9pdETziiLel9I_nVKCkUNY4&e=
Wale Bakare:The small team of volunteers, as i know will work to summarize key information relating to each current and prior litigation that ICANN has been involved in
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Dashboard: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_2j8cdFh&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=iHraUWAg-vnur_-qk1Dh9ZTthSAHNKcqVgvasXQmNYQ&e=
Carlton Samuels:@Wale: Might I ask what is the objective of that collection?
Carlton Samuels:..and if its really important Staff could get that info from Jones, Day right quick.
Carlton Samuels:@Sebastien: I am again recommending that a professional librarian be employed by ICAAN to manage and curate information.
Wale Bakare:@Carlton, as i know the collection is to work around the Qs 1- 4
Carlton Samuels:@Wale: Ah, thanks for that.
Kaili Kan:Sorry that I will have to leave this meeting, for the CCT-RT meeting is about to start right now. Bye!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Thanks for attending, Kaili!
Carlton Samuels:Dropping off myself. CCT-RT calls
Terri Agnew:Reviewing the Cooperative Engagement Process (CEP) : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_nBWOAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=QAqQxO8GIaQmgJV3M15JO7opPrSGMxO6LncNeQnZTxo&e=
Alan Greenberg:On here now and will be on bridge in a moment
Wale Bakare:Some of the cases ICANN's involved in are published at this link, and the small group is going work on it. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_governance_litigation-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=eEPwA1nw7WoNU_nDcd5DX1zbKITSJzop1a2fUqyFOx4&e=
Terri Agnew:Welcome Avri Doria
Alan Greenberg:Cheryl was MUCH louder on last call!
Terri Agnew:Welcome Glenn McKnight
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):i will swithch computers
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):i did not miss anything
Glenn McKnight:I am on the TT IGF call
Terri Agnew:@Cheryl, please let me know if /when a dial out is needed
Alan Greenberg:I was dropped. \
Terri Agnew:Staff Accountability: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_mhWOAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=lvKH2OWKgVsjQb9dlH2Ely5g40yeMeZAf4jDYiVCKyM&e=
Alan Greenberg:Back in a moment
avri doria:i am co-rapporteur of Staff Acct and can say stuff it wanted
Glenn McKnight:echo still
Sebastien:Echo still
Alfredo Calderon:Have echo.
Terri Agnew:finding the echo
Alan Greenberg:I Regrding Guidelines for good faith, there is an update and I can give it if it has not already been done.
Terri Agnew:audio is great Cheryl
avri doria:i missed the first hour and did not hear what was done.
Glenn McKnight:Boy do i miss the captioning!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):we need to do that Alan I had tried to intervene but audio Gremlins abounded
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Staff accountability first draft document: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_2j8fpAL&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=sCGXCVYJDfHBGZ5cke2e7YrG2W5c5MgsD6qFhrtFM68&e=
Wale Bakare:Please i have to step out. Thanks
Maureen Hilyard:@Avri and Cheryl - it certainly helps to appreciate the work that is going on in the group
avri doria:we STRICTLY rotate between the 3 permitted times.
avri doria:anyone interestd in any part if invited, urgently invited, to add to our docs, which is more important that the meetings.
avri doria:answers to staff questions on staff acct https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1ELuw6i3mGAjnZBe0Vc-5FlraNQrWw5m-5FI6UyipEHaRJxc_edit-23&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=NpVWBIwhYfWUEznvOiZ-lecRyFYskFM1w458R5klLzo&e=
avri doria:redundant apologies for typos. grateful to hear Alan is going to jump in actively
avri doria:wiki page for Staff acct https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_WEIA_Staff-2BAccountability&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xyU4eZP08oi91jW_4a1-QvdnjFaHePgJ2QZZU0hfdfI&s=jT-7tAwa-ehOiVxCZWG5GkZ2GOCDAx1PgHtnXpXnYRs&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I am agreed to time rotation and turn up to meetings regardless... but I still have deeply inconvenient times where my input is audibly limited Avri... it was a Mia culpa on my not raising the matter to the WT yet not a complaint
Alan Greenberg:Guidelines will be relly quick, but substantive.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):David McAuley leads IRP II
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:thanks @Cheryl
Terri Agnew:Welcome Wilmer Azurza
Wilmer Azurza:Thank you Terri
avri doria:i am not leader of IOT need t contact staff to join any group
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:understood @Avri
Terri Agnew:For WS2 Subgroup Topics or IOT calls you can also contact : mssi-secretariat@icann.org
avri doria:WS2 staff ws2-staff_acct@icann.org
avri doria:i assume the two are the same and i would not have added one had i seen that Terry had already added one.
avri doria:oh no the one i put is our group email sorry
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Thanks --- yes, mssi-secretariat@icann.org is the correct email
avri doria:yes use mssi-secretariat@icann.org (should finish my coffee before i type anything esle)
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:LOL
Barrack Otieno::-)
Maureen Hilyard:@Cheryl - so unusual
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)::-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):indeed Sebastien
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):not the same thing
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and when do you ever see red from me on a Doodle
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):if you do see red there is a damn good reason
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):too loud!!!
avri doria:well it is pretty easy to avoid the WS2 time slots. they can be filled anytime.
avri doria:in the new gTLD group we picked slots that they never use.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Avri our.WS has fixed weekly rotation of times over A3: week cycle
avri doria:but Cheryl, you use one of the std WS2 time slots?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Gregorian vs Lunar
Leon Sanchez:I need to leave the call. My apologies for not being able to stay till the end
Leon Sanchez:Thanks everyone
Evin Erdogdu:Thank you Leon!
Terri Agnew:confirm 17:00 UTC Cheryl
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yup or rotation to an300
Alfredo Calderon:Hve a great day!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):or 0500
Gordon Chillcott:Thanks and bye for now.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):avoiding Ombuds of course
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye
