Terri Agnew:Welcome to the At-Large ICANN Evolution call on Monday, 24 October 2016 at 11:30 UTC
Alberto Soto:Hello all!
Glenn McKnight:Please provide the link to the work done on the working group on Diversity?
Terri Agnew:Welcome Narine Khachatryan
Narine Khachatryan:hello all!
Narine Khachatryan:Hi Terri
Terri Agnew:Welcome Wale Bakare
Wale Bakare:Hi Terri, everyone
Terri Agnew:Welcome Alan Greenberg
Alan Greenberg:Sorry to be late. Will be on bridge in a moment.
Wale Bakare:Sorry, i have just a few minutes to spend in today's call
Terri Agnew:Guidelines for Good Faith: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_nhWOAw&d=DQIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=ywiLfClP4-SodP3w5sAejwSagKKZdTw9OGMFfe-x4E8&s=cC1Ev_TLucJN7lBw3WvR_UhAd2dVBpNsz9vj0GcdKGs&e=
Glenn McKnight:A simple question. Do we also mean equity as to diversity representation by various underrepresented groups?
Terri Agnew:Welcome Seun Ojedeji
Seun Ojedeji:Thanks and hello everyone
Seun Ojedeji:Seun is here though
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Glenn: please bank this question for when we come back to the Diversity discussion
Seun Ojedeji:Fyi will be off and on for this call....attendng to work here
Terri Agnew:Sebasatien has rejoined on the telephone
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Action Item: Next ICANN Evolution call, post Hyderabad conference, to have a focus on Human Rights
Alan Greenberg:I would like an AOB to get volunteers for each section to leader (and present the current situation) our discussion in Hyderabad.
Terri Agnew:@Alan I added this to the agenda pod under AOB
Terri Agnew:Welcome Kaili Kan
Alan Greenberg:Note there will not be an ICANN Evolution meeting in Hyderabad, but there will be a full At-Large Leasership call on the same subject to wich the WG is invited.
Alan Greenberg:Staff will link all of the rel. documents to the Hyderabad agenda (NOTE AI)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):noted Alan
Alan Greenberg:Not really so fuinny!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:They are all mossing from this call, unfortunately
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:missing
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Alan: thanks re: Note there will not be an ICANN Evolution meeting in Hyderabad, but there will be a full At-Large Leasership call on the same subject to wich the WG is invited.
Terri Agnew:Reviewing the Cooperative Engagement Process (CEP) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_nBWOAw&d=DQIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=ywiLfClP4-SodP3w5sAejwSagKKZdTw9OGMFfe-x4E8&s=7XlcvC0kVD-IqwD0U5q-dk-t-dSNhIGWJ8ye1ZZu2hY&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):no call
Terri Agnew:SO/AC Accountability: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_lBWOAw&d=DQIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=ywiLfClP4-SodP3w5sAejwSagKKZdTw9OGMFfe-x4E8&s=Y28s2xzST3tNquWZGzkJywJBjuWg5eVGE2F837k8IVk&e=
Terri Agnew:Welcome Beran Gillen
Beran Gillen:thanks Terri
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Questions from SO/AC/ Accountability in Google Doc: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1xigRIH7gE8NXEf6I0asyM6rUbGmbzHFcy0RGUZA84RY_edit&d=DQIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=ywiLfClP4-SodP3w5sAejwSagKKZdTw9OGMFfe-x4E8&s=pjv6FGUVtJp3GLWFDQTc8GeJZDg53Hs6WrMEA6JLkaI&e=
Terri Agnew:Staff Accountability: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_mhWOAw&d=DQIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=ywiLfClP4-SodP3w5sAejwSagKKZdTw9OGMFfe-x4E8&s=WBGKt9szmT6OW4Mi9kKl1y_dY_0ECqhKimv_-nA8Vpc&e=
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Snapshot of Hyderabad Report for Huderabad: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ws2-staff_acct/2016-October/000054.html
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):the default dhould be fpor transparency
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Extract from the "background on transparency": The best answer to misinformation and rumor is openness and transparency. Sunlight is not only, as Louis Brandeis once famously said, the best disinfectant, it is also a fundamental ingredient to building trust in ICANN as stewards of a global public resource.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):th e terms in the report inclde "overuse / abuse use of commercial confidentiality
Glenn McKnight:Anyone new to this discussion I suggest reading the two page overview
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes too early to tell outcomes on some of these cross over points
Glenn McKnight:This was a presentation in Helsinki
Glenn McKnight:This Office would be tasked with the following missions: Establishing a diversity audit; Defining diversity criteria Collecting the data for each criterion for all leadership positions in ICANN; Drfting a long-term diversity strategy; publshing annual report on diversity within ICANN; Making concrete proposals to improve diversity within ICANN, to be shared with the
Terri Agnew:everyone can scroll themselves
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Thanks @Terri
Terri Agnew:Welcome Janvier Ngnoulaye
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):this role and jow it impinges on our work is I believe a fairly :unknown: matter
Glenn McKnight:terry can you provide the link to the slides in the middle. I only see it partially
Heidi Ullrich:Goran's blog on changing the Exec Team - https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_evolving-2Dicann-2Ds-2Dexecutive-2Dteam&d=DQIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=ywiLfClP4-SodP3w5sAejwSagKKZdTw9OGMFfe-x4E8&s=oArnS5FGHDPyeVqgVGBLvkhQoF6xcF_DGfN1kXIcGNc&e=
Sebastien:thanks for letting me participating on the Diversity discussion
Terri Agnew:Welcome Christopher Wilkerson
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Thanks @Terri
Glenn McKnight:blue is hard to read
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Glenn: try zooming in it sometimes helps
Glenn McKnight:got it . still blue is a awful colour
Glenn McKnight:The challenge on diversity is being fair in representation of each declared groups
Glenn McKnight:Iceland has 50% gender balance in their government
Glenn McKnight:This should be one of the goals
Glenn McKnight:What is the diversity composition of ICANN staff?
Sebastien:ATRT2 Final Report https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_final-2Drecommendations-2D31dec13-2Den.pdf&d=DQIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=ywiLfClP4-SodP3w5sAejwSagKKZdTw9OGMFfe-x4E8&s=8ELz_yM2EtA8e0LRH1p9QvKG-d4VLPlH8CGTYJBb2Tw&e= , p 53/277 has data about languages spoken by icann staff
Alberto Soto:Dear, I travel in 15 minutes. Greetings to everybody and thanks!!
Glenn McKnight:We need actions on incorporating diversity vs general feel good statements
Heidi Ullrich:There is currently 90 mins to discuss CCWG WS 2 issues on 4 November
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Thanks for joining @Alberto!
Sebastien:He did it - 6 months in Singapore (when not travelling)
Sebastien:And I guess the same in Istambul
CW:I shall not be in Hyderabad. Will there be remote connections? CW
Alan Greenberg:Timing of meetings should be locked in by the end of today or early tomorrow. Still in flux.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@CW: there will be remote participation as there always is. I cannot vouch for the friendlyness of the time zones, though...
Terri Agnew:@Christopher, yes, will have remote connections At-Large ICANN 57 - Hyderabad Meeting - November 2016 wik page https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_pQSbAw&d=DQIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=ywiLfClP4-SodP3w5sAejwSagKKZdTw9OGMFfe-x4E8&s=Icg7SiYO8ocv6xnLCMPgBVK2h_Kc09l0ZRRkMxVKvWo&e=
Terri Agnew:ICANN57 Schedule of all meetings: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__icann572016.sched.org_&d=DQIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=ywiLfClP4-SodP3w5sAejwSagKKZdTw9OGMFfe-x4E8&s=D_QxeKDb2PE5Dtt_eEX3KNcY7YVPOsIY2CkBMbjJE1U&e=
Seun Ojedeji:That must have been quite expensive both in funds and otherwise; moving ones family every 6 months is a lot. I definitely don't think that should prove diversity though Fadi himself ocassonaly visiting the office could encourage staff
Sivasubramanian M 2:Glenn, representation every different group across a multitude of classifications is difficult, but we could aim for a reasonably diverse community and staff totally fair to the interests of the different groups across this multitude of classifications
Glenn McKnight:@siva the current situation doesn't reflect the multiple of classifications. We need to look at best practices
Glenn McKnight:Knowledge trumps diversity ?
Julie Hammer:Diversity in the types of Knowledge needed.
Glenn McKnight:This type of comment is typical to dismiss fair representation
Julie Hammer:In the SSAC context.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):you all know my views on "Diversity for tecking of the check boc;s sake" Agree Aln
Glenn McKnight:Its not a matter of choice diversity vs knowledge
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):should read ticking off check boxes
Julie Hammer:@Glenn Exactly, and that isn't what Alan said, and not what SSAC is saying.
Seun Ojedeji:got to go...bye for now. Thanks
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):got to go to another call at top of the hour
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):as do Seb and I
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Had to go to the other calls audio ... Need to leaave the AC now sorry
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):hbye
CW:B'ye, talk again later. CW
Sebastien:Will try can I ask Stafff to send me a mail to remind me as an AI?
Kaili Kan:Thank you. Bye!
Gordon Chillcott:Thank you and bye for now.
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, All1
Narine Khachatryan:Thanks and bye all
Terri Agnew:@Sebastien will do
Janvier Ngnoulaye:Thank you Terri
