Mario Aleman:Welcome to the At-Large ICANN Evolution call on Thursday 07 September 2017 from 16:00 UTC - 17:30 UTC
Glenn McKnight:hi
Glenn McKnight:muted
Glenn McKnight:Hi Gordon
Glenn McKnight:Just finished ISOC BOT 2 hour call
Glenn McKnight:Lots of great stuff for the 25th Anniv. coming up on Sept 19
Mario Aleman:Hi Glenn, Welcome!
Mario Aleman:Yes, getting prepared for the InterCommunity
Glenn McKnight:i will be in LA
Mario Aleman:Oh I see. Are you connecting to any nearby node?
Glenn McKnight:We had a great call yesterday for the NARALO Orientation
Glenn McKnight:Yes New York
Mario Aleman:Good. Our ISOC chapter might also join the NY node
Glenn McKnight:Look at the 25 under 25 list of names
Mario Aleman:Welcome to the call, Aida. Bienvenida
Glenn McKnight:www.internetsociety.org/25th/25-under-25/awardees.
Glenn McKnight:25 Under 25 Awardees Mr. Adam Galloway (United Kingdom) – Protecting online freedom of expressionMr. Akah Harvey N (Cameroon) – Detecting and predicting road accidentsMr. Akshay Makar (India) – Creating sustainable livelihoods with online craftsMr. Alec Foster (United States) – Strengthening student movements through digital activismMr. Ash Ball (Australia) – Anti-cyberbullying youth movementMs. Asha Abbas (Tanzania) – Providing health education to adolescentsMr. Augusto Mathurin (Argentina) – Creating virtual spaces for collaborative participationMr. Biddemu Bazil Mwotta (Uganda) – Connecting local farmers with buyersMs. Bidyabati Meher (India) – Digitising a cultural tradition for sustained livelihoodMs. Cintia Padilla (Honduras) – Teaching computer skills to local youthMr. Diego Cordova (Guatemala) – Enabling access to educational materialsMs. Farah Abdi (Somalia) – Giving voice to refugee and LGBT issuesMr. James Beaumont (United Kingdom) – Building online communities of supportM
Aida Noblia:Hi all
Mario Aleman:Great
Tatiana Tropina:Hi all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I am in two weeks calls at once so only in AC
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):two calls
Alberto Soto:Hola a todos, hello everyone!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):though it may feel like weeks
Vanda Scartezini:hi everyone. holiday here
Vanda Scartezini:please my name to the alist of attendants Mario
Heidi Ullrich:Hi All
Sebastien:And I guess we have apologies from all our friends from Antillas?
Maureen Hilyard:HI all
Alberto Soto:yes
Heidi Ullrich:Congratulations on winning the NCSG Councilor position, Tatiana!
Alberto Soto:Hi Maureen, long time no see..
Maureen Hilyard:LOL :)) there have been so many meetings lately!
Mario Aleman:Thanks, Vanda. Your name was added to the list once you joined.
Maureen Hilyard:Can we get a copy of the final Human Rights document?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I would suggest that you note Avri as an apology today as wee, like me she is active in each and ever sub group, and like me she is in a marathon SubPro Leadership Team (3hrs worth) call
Maureen Hilyard:On Superwoman duty again Cheryl!
Maureen Hilyard:Both of you
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):lo
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):lot
Maureen Hilyard:Thank you for that comprehensive updateTatiana
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Some explanation of Ruggie Principles: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.shiftproject.org_un-2Dguiding-2Dprinciples_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=EIZsRD5HkaWrY-IOAapEBdyRwuZLXAVNnDN6t_SaXlQ&m=OTH9zX5YxX7OU2bfzpmbufuX_mNRYREUrIkpyqenB_o&s=26Lh-_yUVar6jNec9NA4COXiVw1jqZLFFhMjFUgNSZg&e=
Maureen Hilyard:Thanks for the link, Olivier
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):there was no agreement that we use these Busines based principles
Vanda Scartezini:interesting work from Tatiana's group
Vanda Scartezini:yes
Tatiana Tropina:@Heidi, I just read the chat - thank you very much :)!
Tatiana Tropina:I am not surprised - UK was on the Ruggie case for a very long time. I am surprised Swiss government supported this because they were among the drafters of the current text and were happy with it.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Maureen: regarding the human rights report, the agenda page has a link to each of the CCWG Accountability WS2 sub-group WIKI pages which contain all of the relvant updated documents
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:The Human Rights one is at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_WEIA_Human-2BRights&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=EIZsRD5HkaWrY-IOAapEBdyRwuZLXAVNnDN6t_SaXlQ&m=OTH9zX5YxX7OU2bfzpmbufuX_mNRYREUrIkpyqenB_o&s=SGgAL9-1CWJrJnjsoQmwGhNydqWLQBnX_7JhGCVFUkQ&e=
Maureen Hilyard:Thanks
Glenn McKnight:Anyone follow the thread on Human Rights with IETF?
Vanda Scartezini:it is ok
Alan Greenberg:voice pretty low.
Tatiana Tropina:I hear Cheryl perfectly ...
Vanda Scartezini:agree, manority view is ok but majority will win
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I did say 3GAC members not the GAC
Vanda Scartezini:your voice was low Cheryl may be some could not hear
Wale Bakare:Hi all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):nothing I can do about that I fear, other than not make interventions, probably the better option
Tatiana Tropina:it's a cool topic, that's why :)
Vanda Scartezini:kkkkk
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):not me I cannot be heard
Tatiana Tropina:I also stopped following transparency sadly
Tatiana Tropina:there was a call recently I think
Tatiana Tropina:agree with Alan - they were nearly comlete
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):breaks happen after final report goes to CCWG
Tatiana Tropina:I can but I can\'t make this call one woman talk
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Active it's brutal
Maureen Hilyard:Ive noticed that the Jurisdiction mailing list has been active, but have not had an opportunity to read them all
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Jurisdiction MAster List of proposed issues: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_59643282_Master-2520List-2520of-2520Proposed-2520Issues-2520Submitted-2520by-2520Subgroup-2520Participants.docx-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1504732159000-26api-3Dv2&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=EIZsRD5HkaWrY-IOAapEBdyRwuZLXAVNnDN6t_SaXlQ&m=OTH9zX5YxX7OU2bfzpmbufuX_mNRYREUrIkpyqenB_o&s=nS5PCVObOP2cOuZwW-cC64EtV1YNhO4HzInVMRWYT1Y&e=
Alan Greenberg:Jurusdiction: I think the acronym SNAFU is appropriate. Systems Normal, but in a big mess. But at the last plenary, it was reported that they were "making progress"
Tatiana Tropina:I thought it was rather moving to FUBAR...
Wale Bakare:I am active but the Jurisdiction issue is a bit complex - too politically inclined
Vanda Scartezini:can imagine Wale
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I can't see it meeting deadline dates at this stage agree Tatiana
Wale Bakare:Please, permit me to make comment as i can't talk now: The group is now talking about OFAC for registries and registrars outside the US
Wale Bakare:Link to OFAC recommendation https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1h9xCMjxmKDEHj2aD5d4xDEhIddAR0iId5Uer6nLh-5FPI_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=EIZsRD5HkaWrY-IOAapEBdyRwuZLXAVNnDN6t_SaXlQ&m=OTH9zX5YxX7OU2bfzpmbufuX_mNRYREUrIkpyqenB_o&s=mJ2Wd-RdGMyWDiL7D0g1cRKVy34Yv8giXzt3yLEClJM&e=
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Thanks @Wale
Wale Bakare:You welcome
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):we're up to meeting #44!
Tatiana Tropina:Cheryl, there was a timeline I think showing the latest date for a submission of the report if Jurisdiction group will ever make it going to public comment... :-/
Wale Bakare:link to Master List of Proposed Issues Submitted by Subgroup Participants https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1WNYj8jfau11OMUzvguZN8UE-2DfGos54m8XTYUTnROgBU_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=EIZsRD5HkaWrY-IOAapEBdyRwuZLXAVNnDN6t_SaXlQ&m=OTH9zX5YxX7OU2bfzpmbufuX_mNRYREUrIkpyqenB_o&s=caMvtQe0Rwt6YGfe6DQENccqxvNL2TeFIlZPIhlmKi0&e=
Alan Greenberg:The political climate in the US does not make this a good time to have these discussion on jurisdiction.
Sarah Kiden:That is a lot of meetings :-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):we have presented our final report
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes and not enough progress Sarah
Tatiana Tropina:Jurisdiciton team people like each other a lot. Like, VERY much
Tatiana Tropina::)
Wale Bakare:@Tatiana, permit me to ask this - like each other, how?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):we just don't all agree
Tatiana Tropina:hahaha Cheryl that's just right.
Tatiana Tropina:otherwise we are super nice to each other and appreciate each other's intellectual curiosuty. Outside of the jurisdiciton group.
Wale Bakare:There is another discussion about immunity for ICANN
Tatiana Tropina:am going to reply to Olivier's question but I can lower my hand.
Alan Greenberg:Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): we have presented our final report
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):we have been digging all along OCL
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):our report has been completed and presented
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):no
Maureen Hilyard:I can hear you well CLO
Maureen Hilyard:Great webinar on diversity yesterday
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):we should only need the one PC that we already had on Accountability
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Diversity Report has had its first reading in the plenary
Maureen Hilyard:Cheryl explained the diversity principles at the webinar - well received
Glenn McKnight:k
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I will note your bias Seb ;-)
Maureen Hilyard:@Cheryl - good idea as a resource - Glenn - ebook?
Glenn McKnight:sure
Sarah Kiden::-)
Tatiana Tropina:*dance*
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):sure Maureen, this is an ongoing topic
Heidi Ullrich:That was a time-check ;)
Heidi Ullrich:30 mins to go
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): music break :-)
Tatiana Tropina:Heidi :D
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:LOL
Glenn McKnight:I t would be nice to have a short summary for the RALO newsletters
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Ombudsman WG report is downloadable from https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_WEIA_Ombudsman&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=EIZsRD5HkaWrY-IOAapEBdyRwuZLXAVNnDN6t_SaXlQ&m=OTH9zX5YxX7OU2bfzpmbufuX_mNRYREUrIkpyqenB_o&s=5qKCnk4ab4zIpwtgH-7KEmSGpG8cypHXe2npesrhqYo&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):indeed See
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):well covered
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):lot
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):this is a sad reality Alberto
Maureen Hilyard:A good reminder for all of ALAC
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and we regulars do keep offering to peer support the others
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):very true
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):occasionally a full CLO
Vanda Scartezini:kkkk
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):LOL
Sebastien:It is not the one that merge?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):correct Alan
Maureen Hilyard:Well done Cheryl - tactful?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):deliberate
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)::-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):it is an implementation oversight team
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):David McCauley
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):has chaired it since she went to the board
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):that would be ATRT3
Sebastien:Yes Cheryl
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):This is a placeholder
Sebastien:But ATRT2 is what need to be done in ATRT2 done by WS2
Sebastien:Like the IOO reveiw
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):it is also a carry over from WS1
Vanda Scartezini:Yeah ALAn it will be up to the WG
Vanda Scartezini:it was a very good move to up date all these points Olivier.
Maureen Hilyard:Can people still jump into a group at this late stage? (after the Review is done?)
Heidi Ullrich:@Olivier, if this is an AI, please state it
Heidi Ullrich:could you plesae stated the AI?
Maureen Hilyard:Milestone dates on a timeline would be very helpful for providing input or comment
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Bernie can give it to staff s well
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I don't
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):agree Alan
Vanda Scartezini: we may exchnage ideas by email..
Alberto Soto:Thanks, bye bye! until 21:00 UTC...
Sarah Kiden:Thank you!
Vanda Scartezini:thank you for put it together Olivier. good meeting..
Tatiana Tropina:thanks all - bye :-)
Vanda Scartezini:have a nice weekend.
Maureen Hilyard:Agree OCL, to be able to catch up with what is happening
Tatiana Tropina:and yes, great meeting. Happy get updates on everything.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye ð for now, apologies I gathered needed from me for speaking on so many topics
Wale Bakare:Thanks, bye all!
Heidi Ullrich:Good call. Thanks!
Aida Noblia:Thank You all. Bye
Gordon Chillcott:Thanks and bye for now.
Maureen Hilyard:Bye all
