Gisella Gruber: (5/23/2017 12:02) Welcome to the ALAC Monthly Teleconference on Tuesday, 23 May from 12:00-14:00 UTC
Gisella Gruber: (12:02) Draft agenda: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_1RTfAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=UTncpjzp_jTD23RjmTKe2yI_DO8l4CATmvJQURoGyN4&e=
Maureen Hilyard: (13:04) Good middle-of-the-night to you all..
Nadira AlAraj: (13:04) Wafa is in a session at the ME DNS Forum
Heidi Ullrich: (13:05) Good middle of the night, Maureen! Thanks so much for joining!
Yubelkys: (13:08) Yubelkys Montalvo
Gisella Gruber: (13:10) Yubelkys - my apologies - corrected
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (13:12) plese unsync agenda
Gisella Gruber: (13:12) @ Olivier - done!
Gisella Gruber: (13:13) Reminder - please state your names EVERY TIME for the other language channels
Gisella Gruber: (13:13) @ Sebastien - thank you very much for this
Leon Sanchez: (13:14) I will need to leave the call at 15 past the hour
Leon Sanchez: (13:14) A good practice is to state a speaker's name each time he/she speaks I believe
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (13:15) the problem is that if you do not say your name, the interpreter needs to speak twice as fast because they need to say your name and then say what you are saying. If you say your name, it give teh interpreter time to say your name too
Yubelkys: (13:15) thanks Gisela!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (13:15) audio is absolutely fine here
Maureen Hilyard: (13:15) I can hear you fine, Ariel
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:16) it wasn't a problem for me Ariel
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (13:16) hearing you ok on the AC audio
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (13:16) the interpreter's lines don't appear to be working well then
Ariel Liang: (13:19) The wiki for the CC2: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_j7-2DRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=2GD_lBqBU7dE2xAtSuVtbABTMv5VdrVgSXvcON9VMaQ&e=
Ariel Liang: (13:20) .NET registry: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_l9rRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=800-4lBEUCKMfuK5JKH0_Wk19uY0nfNOTYts4IlPs58&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:22) I empathise... but.....
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:23) exactly Alan!!!
Maureen Hilyard: (13:23) We are getting the comments from several but not all..
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:24) this is a deliberate effort to be more iterative,
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:24) from the PDP POV
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (13:25) A suggestion for getting others in At-Large to help with comment on statements in progress - similiar to the At-Large and GNSO calls summary emailed every week, perhaps a summary of policy statements in progress done every week could help
Maureen Hilyard: (13:26) Mea culpa as well.. I had to take a break close to the critical closing time
Gisella Gruber: (13:26) @ Tijani - I have muted your adobe line
Ariel Liang: (13:28) @Dev - noted the suggestion. thank you
Maureen Hilyard: (13:29) Happy to say no comment on the actual contract but add that pricing incited a conversation
Gisella Gruber: (13:32) Judith Hellerstein joined the call
Gisella Gruber: (13:33) Wafa Dahmani and Bartlett Morgan have joined the AC
Wafa Dahmani: (13:33) sorry for the delay
Wafa Dahmani: (13:33) I cann only listen
Wafa Dahmani: (13:33) will write in the chat room
Gisella Gruber: (13:35) @ Wafa -thank you for this
Harold Arcos: (13:35) No
Harold Arcos: (13:36) I am throught cel, the clear status has delay,,,
Ariel Liang: (13:36) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_o9TRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=f-ce4r5AdRxuIUy9LuBdT5sX_quVIziv_1k2bUt3sYQ&e=
Gisella Gruber: (13:37) Beran Gilen has joined the audio bridge
Gisella Gruber: (13:37) (Beran Gillen)
Ariel Liang: (13:38) WHOIS Conflict with privacy law: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_MgjfAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=mwcjGcx5senblg0QHKdXkLcafcvTutyCN9DNz9XSBTI&e=
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (13:42) If we get European ALSes to contribute, this wil be an open challenge for other region ALSes to raise the bar too
Ariel Liang: (13:46) IGO & INGO protection: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_0QvwAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=feux_knMvC37jDdS4fO2dUSvjtXzdtAWXth6UysCes4&e=
Yubelkys: (13:47) no
Maureen Hilyard: (13:49) Nothing from me
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (13:49) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_Draft-2BRALO-2BOutreach-2BStrategic-2BPlans-2Bfor-2BFY18&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=wYhZQF62CYI-cUv7sgjhNDgoZ2YmlqQXaGvhJPFEwJ4&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:49) nothing substantial from the GNSO Council on the 18th
Julie Hammer: (13:49) All in my report and email advising of SSAC Reports issued.
judith hellerstein: (13:49) whose hold music is this
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:49) ahh am inter
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:49) interlude
judith hellerstein: (13:50) Is it not called crop still now that it lost its last "p"
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (13:51) Community Regional Outreach Program - CROP
Yubelkys: (13:51) nice music
judith hellerstein: (13:52) Last day Naralo did its plan very early since we had cropp travellers in mid july
judith hellerstein: (13:52) i meant last year not last day
judith hellerstein: (13:53) We are working on this years plan
Ariel Liang: (13:54) Negar Farzinnia - new staff member from MSSI for the implementation phase
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (13:54) what is this slide deck?
Alan Greenberg: (13:54) Not a clue!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (13:54) Jan 2015?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (13:55) ;-) I was about to ask this also
Heidi Ullrich: (13:56) Apologies for that, not sure why that PPT was on the agenda. Will remove.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:56) no idea what that slide came intolay from
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:57) into play from
Gisella Gruber: (13:58) Rinalia Abdul Rahim has joined the AC room
Yubelkys: (13:59) for me are interesting and productive meetings
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:01) and that is a good thing Alan
Rinalia Abdul Rahim: (14:02) hi
Heidi Ullrich: (14:03) Welcome, Rinalia!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim: (14:03) struggling with internet today...
Sebastien (ALAC): (14:03) Et le point 9 ?
judith hellerstein: (14:04) Says nothing is being shared
Alan Greenberg: (14:04) Sorry Sebastien - missed that one. Will go back. Got distracted by duplication of At-Large review item.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (14:04) What is happening to agenda item 9?
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (14:04) ok @Alan
Ariel Liang: (14:05) You may view the schedule here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_64951509_ICANN59-2520-2D-2520Johannesburg-252C-2520South-2520Africa-2520-25E2-2580-25A2-2520iScheduler-2520-2D-2520Session-2520Space.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1495538308000-26api-3Dv2&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=aPhPJKNa91FIxt1HrzX_9ocsm9x2YWLFJgVCT30w2nA&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:05) I thought we new they were on break?
Gisella Gruber: (14:06) Thank you YESIM! Sincere Apologies for the technical issue
Yesim Nazlar: (14:06) sure!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (14:07) Question: on the topic of Outreach in JOhannesburg, why is the Outreach & Engagement working group not involved with this? Why was there no regular update to the working group itself? Why a lack of coordination?
judith hellerstein: (14:08) @olivier--Good Questions
Heidi Ullrich: (14:08) @OCL, Dev has asked for a call of the SC on O/E next week to coordinate.
Alan Greenberg: (14:08) Apparently the university we are dealing with will be on break on Thurday but not Monday, OR they are JUST on break on Monday and some will still be available.
Heidi Ullrich: (14:08) The AFRALO plans are just coming together.
Wale Bakare: (14:10) i will be joining another call shortly
Alan Greenberg: (14:10) I would like to think that the AF members of the O&E SC are involved in the localevent and are keeping the O&E SC up to date and involved if necessary. If not, that SHOULD be happening...
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (14:10) no coordination, sorry.
Heidi Ullrich: (14:10) The plans are just being moved forward.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:11) Unfortunately there's been no coordination with O&E from AFRALO leadership so we're learning about this now on this call - a next O&E call is scheduled next week
judith hellerstein: (14:13) Also it is my understanding, but please correct me if I am wrong, that the African Chair of Outreach & Engagement--Daniel i -snot funded to come to Jo-burg
Leon Sanchez: (14:14) a lot of interference
judith hellerstein: (14:14) I think it is Cheryl's line
Bartlett Morgan: (14:15) all. I have to drop off now. Best
Tijani BEN JEMAA: (14:16) I love this discussion
Tijani BEN JEMAA: (14:17) if you like, I would be very happy to have a special ALAC call to discuss it
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:18) happy to do that Alan
Tijani BEN JEMAA: (14:18) Let's make it christal clear so that everyone understand and express his/herself
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:18) this is why I was ok last schedule but not seeing this now
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:19) yes that is when we need 'people to visit' Wed a.m.
Sebastien (ALAC): (14:20) Non
Sebastien (ALAC): (14:20) Merci
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:21) we should be able to get anyone not engaged in the AFRALO session should be in with GNSO
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (14:22) please note the ICANN Registration System Email confirmation: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_announcement-2D2017-2D05-2D19-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=2vefhPIftqwCQj4Zgxu1emandrfz4kxoeo76kupCDy0&e=
Leon Sanchez: (14:23) I need to leave the AC room now
Leon Sanchez: (14:24) will remain on phone bridge till 40 past the hour
judith hellerstein: (14:25) Some working groups meet often while others do not. not sure why not
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:27) The scope for these groups looks good
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (14:27) please unsync
Gisella Gruber: (14:27) Olivier - done
Gisella Gruber: (14:28) Welcome back Isaac - I had to disconnect you as your line was creating so much noise we could not hear the call
Isaac Maposa: (14:29) It's ok. No problem
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:29) indeed Olivier
Isaac Maposa: (14:29) Seems we were trying to both mute from both ends
Gisella Gruber: (14:29) @ Isaac - we were ;-)
Yubelkys: (14:30) sorry I got disconnect.
Isaac Maposa: (14:31) @Gisella I was muting so someone from that end was undoing my action
Heidi Ullrich: (14:31) Any AI on this item, Alan?
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (14:31) perhaps nobody trusts me to be a good enough mentor :-)
Alan Greenberg: (14:32) Mentoring later on the agenda. If we have time...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:36) but if the function even in part as the one supporting Transition an Accountability it will or could become very greedy of time
Heidi Ullrich: (14:36) Meeting Reports Page from CPH: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BICANN-2B58-2BMeeting-2BReports-2BWorkspace&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=7ztf6xHMSeqr0GJSPufgPlavTE1-tK2NDsHeIFYBn4E&e=
Yubelkys: (14:38) I'm agree with Sebastian
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:40) I always wondered who ever read the reports beyond the LT/ Staff
Maureen Hilyard: (14:42) Brief summaries are good
Yubelkys: (14:42) I did on my Board meetings
judith hellerstein: (14:42) I tried to do this but in the past few times I am sorry I forgot to do this
judith hellerstein: (14:42) I try and mentor in naralo
Maureen Hilyard: (14:42) True is just remembering to do them. But we have reminders from Staff
judith hellerstein: (14:43) and sometimes outside naralo
Satish Babu: (14:43) Reports would be useful for documenting the time spent...however, if no one is reading, I guess it's wasted effort...
Satish Babu: (14:44) APRALO ran a formal mentoring program for our volunteers, with Cheryl mentoring the mentors...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:45) you probably need a peer support system more than true Mentoring in ALAC Alan
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:45) Its just that its not clear what happens to At-Large/ALAC during an ICANN F2F meeting - the meeting reports fed into the Friday ALAC reporting done at ICANN F2F reporting which went away, perhaps the post ICANN Policy report produced by the SO/AC s can remove the need for meeting reports - but I feel we're losing touch in keeping the community informed somehow
Maureen Hilyard: (14:46) They should be archived somewhere - Glenn puts links his photos, etc. Reports need not be too long. just what was important to At-Large
Leah Symekher: (14:47) First time I am hearing of mentorship...its a valuable service for newcomers.
judith hellerstein: (14:48) Glenn and I were doing outreach to all naralo alses
Heidi Ullrich: (14:49) The ALAC and RALO Development session at ICANN 60 may be a good oppty to launch this group
Leah Symekher: (14:50) I like the ARIN approach on mentors..could look at that :-).
judith hellerstein: (14:50) to work with each of you and explain how to get involved with naralo
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:51) there's an aspect that the At-Large community onboarding can help with online sessions in preparation for F2F meetings
Tijani BEN JEMAA: (14:53) Dropped
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:53) and I am happy to assist
judith hellerstein: (14:54) Ballots have been sent, at least for naralo alses
Heidi Ullrich: (14:55) 2017 At-Large Election, Selection and Appointment workspace: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_2017-2BALAC-2Band-2BRALO-2BElections-252C-2BSelections-2Band-2BAppointments&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=iBJMi6EAa0mlL1JQr_ocYZWn_WIqdHzm79gKCnQTB1U&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:55) remember for APRALO the role of Secretary is discretionary and an appointment
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:56) we can appoint or change any time and indeed not have one if the Region agrees
judith hellerstein: (14:56) Why no election. I thought the ralo needs to have an election?
Satish Babu: (14:56) @Judith, The Secretariat position for APRALO is optional/discretionary
judith hellerstein: (14:57) no i was asking about the nomcom
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:57) also APRALO has a current Sec who can stay if the Region so desires
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:57) SO APRALO should not have any red. IMO
Satish Babu: (14:58) For the NomCom, ALAC has absolute discretion, whether we run a election or not...
Satish Babu: (14:58) +1 @Cheryl
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:58) indeed Satish
Heidi Ullrich: (14:58) I heard from Satish my morning re the plans for the APRALO Sec.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:58) no Judith
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:59) yes we have Alan
Ariel Liang: (15:00) The wording of the vote for the NomCom psotion in NARALO:
Ariel Liang: (15:00) Both candidates' names will be presented to the ALAC along with the vote result showing which candidate was preferred by the electorate. Since this position is an ALAC appointee position, ALAC will ultimately decide whether/how to make their endorsement based on its rules of procedure, taking into account the NARLAO recommendation.
Ariel Liang: (15:00) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__atlarge-2Dlists.icann.org_pipermail_na-2Ddiscuss_2017-2DMay_009796.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=UmisfiRXmaTEOGIUBZTNO3WV2KQxp2o4X1ojGls5rUg&e=
judith hellerstein: (15:01) @Ariel. Than in our revised rules of procedure we will likely change this
Ariel Liang: (15:02) Please be so kind to confirm with Glenn - he has approved this vote approach and exact wording
judith hellerstein: (15:02) Ok
Heidi Ullrich: (15:03) Congratulations to all those who have been won by acclamation!
Heidi Ullrich: (15:05) Noted, Cheryl.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:08) Committee
Isaac Maposa: (15:09) here is a link to the wiki; https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BCommunity-2BOnboarding&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=kWNavM3dBBoHA-Uklt1FdYRmCa6uujk4CmMUm5r_KT8&s=SgL5VShDYmc1W7guEb4Xn82O-vG7O0ZqsOO73ndQLHk&e=
Rinalia Abdul Rahim 2: (15:15) very nice work, Dev!
Heidi Ullrich: (15:16) It will important to work very closely with all RALOs and Policy staff to finalize any onboarding activity.
Heidi Ullrich: (15:16) To avoid confusion and duplication on current similar activiteis
Maureen Hilyard: (15:16) Looking good Dev..
Heidi Ullrich: (15:19) This issue will be discussed internally with relevant staff over the next two days.
Yubelkys: (15:22) thank you
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:22) thanks everyone bye for now then
Heidi Ullrich: (15:22) Thanks so much to everyone - including esp the interpretors!
Ariel Liang: (15:22) thanks all
Gisella Gruber: (15:22) Thank you all!
Yubelkys: (15:22) bye all
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:22) thanks everyone - take care all
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