Yesim Nazlar:Welcome to the ALAC Subcommittee on Finance and Budget (FBSC) Call on Thursday, 09 February 2017 at 17:00 UTC

  Yesim Nazlar:Agenda: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_apfRAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=_xFRCGM_IK6UWFub1sez3-LLDXO02abZNl9gkZ09kIY&s=XKEETKphUc1oAHgNY0O8kriPQMrAGzlr5tLMqxOS358&e=

  Heidi Ullrich:Hi All!

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello All

  Javier Rua-Jovet:hello to all

  Ali AlMeshal:hi all

  Glenn McKnight:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DDz9YNJkh9R4&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=_xFRCGM_IK6UWFub1sez3-LLDXO02abZNl9gkZ09kIY&s=vmjJTWaGfI1uCnAcdMbarMJ2r8yVNBAmkvi9360hOMw&e=

  Glenn McKnight:Connecting the 3 billion users to the Internet session still on

  Glenn McKnight:@maureen I sent you some slides

  Maureen Hilyard:Hi all.. I am in the middle of a storm.and it will cause havoc with our satellite connection so my AC and phone link may drop occasionally

  Heidi Ullrich:Take care, Maureen!!

  Glenn McKnight:Its just cold here   -9 C

  Maureen Hilyard:We are thankfully down to 24.. nice..

  Nadira ALARAJ:How RALOs workshops are submitted. Why there are not coordiantion?

  Heidi Ullrich:@Nadira, RALO coordination was requested. Often, the RALO leaders coordinate the requests.

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Sounds good, hope it gets approved since a coordinated At-Large approach is sorely needed

  Glenn McKnight:@Nadira  yes the  coordination is critical in the delivery of workshops and outreach

  Nadira ALARAJ:Thanks @Heidi for your explanation

  Nadira ALARAJ:Thanks Glenn

  Humberto Carrasco:Hello

  Maureen Hilyard:@Alan that was a rather quick change, but my question so where does this leave the ALAC and the RALO requests?

  Humberto Carrasco:Soory I am late

  Yesim Nazlar:welcome Humberto

  Glenn McKnight:@dev  i willl go over it with you on the conclusion of the call

  Glenn McKnight:I assume these proposals are moving forward

  Maureen Hilyard:I laughed when I saw that..

  Javier Rua-Jovet:Im joining @Glenn's assumption....

  Javier Rua-Jovet:good

  Glenn McKnight:ok

  Glenn McKnight:thanks for the clarification

  Javier Rua-Jovet:Yep.  I have never understood this.

  Glenn McKnight:The  InSIG  is a great event and well received and the video producer was amazing

  Maureen Hilyard:WE can leave CROPP for other members

  Javier Rua-Jovet:yes Humberto

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:See Humberto on the AC

  Humberto Carrasco:indeed

  Humberto Carrasco:I am here

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:So are we talking about O&E and Capacity Building to come up with materials - because there is also work being Community Onboarding being done by the O&E

  Glenn McKnight:We have lacked training of  new officers of the RALO's.  The training should be tied to the job descriptions and metrics of  performance ie. communication,  engagement etc

  Glenn McKnight:Lack of assessment  ie. 360 review of the RALO leaders has us in a bubble

  Humberto Carrasco:thanks heidi

  Glenn McKnight:Training and Evaluation are hand in hand

  Humberto Carrasco:ok

  Glenn McKnight:Training for the sake of training without relevance is a wastte of time

  Heidi Ullrich:@Glenn, the LaCRALO request is to train leaders within LACRALO.

  Daniel K. Nanghaka:Even the New ALSes have never gone through training if am not mistaken

  Glenn McKnight:Yes i realize that

  Daniel K. Nanghaka:They get onboard and are not briefed and have limited or no idea of what to do

  Heidi Ullrich:@Daniel, the new ALSes having an onboarding program for staff and are given resources when they join. They also have access to the At-Large Capacity Building Webinars.

  Heidi Ullrich:However, much more onboarding is needed as well as a 'journey' for new ALSes.

  Yesim Nazlar:Sarah Kiden has joined us on the phone bridge

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:But that's what the Community Onboarding is trying to do

  Heidi Ullrich:@Dev, the community onboarding is currently at a small scale for individuals. Onboarding for all ALSes is needed

  Maureen Hilyard:+1 Heidi

  Glenn McKnight:If you want engaged and active new members a process is required to identify their interest and providing relevant an timely training or mentoring

  Humberto Carrasco:ok alan

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:and that program is continuing - and it can scale if online

  Glenn McKnight:We don't have a stick to force new  ALS to join the Webinar or orientation sessions.

  Maureen Hilyard:But how do you engage ALS members who can't access the online material

  Maureen Hilyard:Sometimes its only the leaders who actually have internet

  Glenn McKnight:@Maureen we have discussed the Rachel Serval model

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Maureen how are ALS members aren't able to access the online material ?

  Glenn McKnight:We did to recognize that alot of people have specific interests that need to be identified and recruit them into working groups etc to make them feel welcome

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):whatever

  Daniel K. Nanghaka:There is a challenge of Dormant?Inactive ALSes - How do we measure that a member is active or not and yet they do not participate in WGs. This is a big challenge especially the fact that the members engagement in PDPs is important

  Maureen Hilyard:@Dev I'm talking about ALSes where the leaders actually distribute materials and information to the members who don't have access..

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):these figures are astonishing IMO

  Maureen Hilyard:In my ALS only about one quarter of us have internet at home.. the others only have access at work, and can't use the internet unless for work

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Maureen, then great, online materials can be given on flash drives.

  Maureen Hilyard:OK

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I think paper wouldn't work practically

  Maureen Hilyard:@Dev not interested in paper..

  Glenn McKnight:This is why we produced our  new NARALO brochure as a E Version only

  Maureen Hilyard:even brochures are a hassle to cart around some time

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and yes it guarantees rejection and does all of us reputation harm

  Glenn McKnight:Note   Dev did a great job  on the LACRALO ALS  Membership list  which is a PDF summary of all the  ALS in LACRALO  

  Heidi Ullrich:Silvia will take notes when I leave

  Glenn McKnight:I am working on our  NARALO GA  which includes our  agenda, ALS profiles and a list of resources .  I will share it when done in a Ebook format

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:but having online materials synced for offline download can work - but I just seeing different groups trying to develop different materials to achieve the same result when we - At-Large- should be cordinating the development of such materials

  Maureen Hilyard:AGREE ++

  Humberto Carrasco:no more comments

  Humberto Carrasco:I believe is interpretation

  Javier Rua-Jovet:I think it means interretation

  Javier Rua-Jovet:interpretation

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Never seen this proposal at all

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I see

  Heidi Ullrich:Alan agreed to accept it.

  Heidi Ullrich:I will drop off now. Silvia will take notes.

  Maureen Hilyard:Can't they do our courses? And get an ICANN certificate?

  Heidi Ullrich:Well done to all who submitted proposals!

  Maureen Hilyard:"our" as in ICANN Learn

  Alfredo Calderon:@Heidi, thank you for your constant support.

  Javier Rua-Jovet:@heidi thx 4 everything

  Javier Rua-Jovet:old hand

  Glenn McKnight:I don't understand the value of this proposal

  Glenn McKnight:A certificate issued,  does this have intrinsic value?

  Glenn McKnight:What is the valuation

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):3rd party ( uni) certificate

  Glenn McKnight:like  BBB  

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I honestly see no value in a certificate

  Javier Rua-Jovet:I dont understand the value

  Maureen Hilyard:Does it commit the participants to involvement in At-Large

  Ali AlMeshal:no

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Are you asking participants?

  Humberto Carrasco:yes

  Erich Schweighofer:Better preparation - why not next time.

  Maureen Hilyard:@Erich +1

  Glenn McKnight:It needs to have more  rational explanation on the rate of return

  Ali AlMeshal:I vote for Nokia

  Ali AlMeshal:sorry no

  Maureen Hilyard:One of our applications wrote more than this application and was told that the request was rather thin...and we had to add more justification

  Maureen Hilyard:applicants I mean

  Maureen Hilyard:APRALO has appreciated the feedback

  Javier Rua-Jovet:it will live!

  Silvia Vivanco:Thank you all

  Javier Rua-Jovet:bye

  Nadira ALARAJ:Thank you

  Humberto Carrasco:Bye

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:bye all

  Alfredo Lopez:saludos a todos

  Erich Schweighofer:Servus from Vienna

  Daniel K. Nanghaka:bye

  Ali AlMeshal:Bye ALL

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye

  Alfredo Lopez:bye

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