Attendees:
Members: Alan Greenberg, Alice Munyua, Athina Fragkouli, Becky Burr, Bruce Tonkin, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Eberhard Lisse, Fiona Asonga, Izumi Okutani, James Bladel, Jordan Carter, Julia Wolman, Leon Sanchez, Mathieu Weill, Olga Cavalli, Robin Gross, Samantha Eisner, Steve DelBianco, Suzanne Radell, Thomas Rickert, Tijani Ben Jemaa
Participants: Avri Doria, Carl Schonander, Chris Disspain, David McAuley, David Johnson, Edward Morris, Eric Brunner-Williams, Finn Petersen, Greg Shatan, Guru Acharya, John Poole, Jonas Koelle, Jonathan Zuck, Kavouss Arasteh, Keith Drazek, Lars Erik Forsberg, Malcolm Hutty, Markus Kummer, Martin Boyle, Matthew Shears, Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Phil Buckingham, Seun Ojedeji, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Thomas Schneider, Wolf Ludwig, Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
Staff: Theresa Swinehart, Alice Jansen, Bart Boswinkel, Grace Abuhamad, Josh Baulch, Marika Konings, Berry Cobb, Nathalie Peregrine, Adam Peake, Brenda Brewer, Jim Trengrove
Apologies:
**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
Transcript
Transcript CCWG ACCT #4 20 Jan.doc
Transcript CCWG ACCT #4 20 Jan.pdf
Recording
The Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p88qsrxnhn4/
The audio recording is available here: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ccwg-acct-4-20jan15-en.mp3
Notes:
Review of CWG questions
Budget accountability
CCWG proposal only considering up/down vote on annual budget. Not the level of detail suggested by CWG.
Not foreseen breaking down budget to the level they seem to be requesting. CCWG supportive of the CWG request for improved transparency on the IANA budget. And CCWG will likely include a budget transparency in recommendations.
Accountability (re)delegation
Independent appeals panels
The mechanism we envisage should cover these requests.
Control over ICANN Board Decisions
The group will respond to the CWG, draft shared with the list.
Work on the problem statement has been completed and can be shared with the expert advisors.
Mind-map provides the building blocks for work on accountability mechanisms, and working parties for avenues of work.
Subteams allocated to further develop contingencies and further develop stress tests.
Work items.
Liaise with CWG
Work on contingencies, definition of questions
Scoping document, finalize and circulate to the list, and to advisors
Establishing the two avenue working parties (Jordan Carter to led the community empowerment group)
Through review of timelines so we are able to meet commitments by ICANN #53 Including a second F2F between Singapore and Buenos Aires
Singapore preparation.
Legal advice, urgency high, and need to develop specific questions
Chat Transcript
Leon Sanchez (Co-Chair-ALAC): (1/20/2015 08:40) welcome back
Matthew Shears: (08:44) is this issue budget accountabliity or transparency? seems to me that the point we rasied vis-avis the budget is different than what is being asked for by the CWG
Matthew Shears: (08:45) + 1 Steve
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (ALAC-AP Region): (08:48) totally support what @chris is saying re part 2. in this document art (re)deligations
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (ALAC-AP Region): (08:52) +111 to @Steve on way forward to respond
Jordan Carter (.nz, ccTLD Member): (08:56) So let's move on
Jordan Carter (.nz, ccTLD Member): (08:56) :D
Robin Gross [GNSO-NCSG]: (09:06) I've asked staff to make a mtg room available to those of us in this group who want to meet in Singapore (on Sunday afternoon) to work on these issues .
Matthew Shears: (09:06) thanks Robin
Robin Gross [GNSO-NCSG]: (09:08) Not sure if we'll get the room yet - they need to check with mtg planning staff to see if we've got any mtg space open on Sunday
Samantha Eisner: (09:09) @Kavouss, control in English can also mean "determine the behaviour or supervise the running of.", not just monitor. Agree that language is important here.
Robin Gross [GNSO-NCSG]: (09:09) Agree with Samantha that the meaning of control in English is much broader than just monitor.
Jordan Carter (.nz, ccTLD Member): (09:13) Gr8 idea @Robin
Jordan Carter (.nz, ccTLD Member): (09:15) i'll personally be in SG from the Friday night the 6th
Greg Shatan: (09:15) The CWG essentially has a "make/buy" decision with regard to the accountability mechanisms to be created by the CCWG. If the CCWG creates mechanism we can use in our proposed processes, we'll "buy" it. If the CCWG doesn't do so, we'll need to "make" it ourselves.
Mathieu Weill, ccNSO, co-chair: (09:16) @Greg : that is our understanding, thanks !
Greg Shatan: (09:20) @Mathieu: Also, in my opinion, we would prefer to "buy" (to avoid inconsistent, duplicative and multiplying processes).
Matthew Shears: (09:21) + 1 Steve
Jordan Carter (.nz, ccTLD Member): (09:21) +1 Steve
Keith Drazek: (09:22) Agreed Steve. We don't want to create new structures if they're not needed, but we need to establish what is possible with existing structures and what might require something new. Sooner rather than later.
Matthew Shears: (09:22) Absolutely!
Jordan Carter (.nz, ccTLD Member): (09:23) +++1
Matthew Shears: (09:25) Happy to support Jordan
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Grace Abuhamad: (09:28) Thank you remote participants!!
Jordan Carter (.nz, ccTLD Member): (09:29) Seems to ave been a great meeting - thank you to the co-chairs and the staff team and to everyone who has taken part
David McAuley (GNSO): (09:29) Thanks Grace
David McAuley (GNSO): (09:29) +1 totech support
David McAuley (GNSO): (09:29) +1 to staff
David McAuley (GNSO): (09:29) +1 to co-chairs
David McAuley (GNSO): (09:29) +1 to back bench
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (09:29) Thank you indeed for the technical support, to staff and to the chairs
Keith Drazek: (09:30) I'm very encouraged by the progress of this group.
Seun Ojedeji: (09:30) Thanks and bye
Robin Gross [GNSO-NCSG]: (09:31) Yes, great work team!
Jordan Carter (.nz, ccTLD Member): (09:31) Have done well
Matthew Shears: (09:31) many thanks all!
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (09:32) great progress. thanks all!
Sivasubramanian M: (09:32) bye everyone
