Zoom Chat:2021-07-15 AFRALO Operating Principles Review WG

09:58:31 From Claudia Ruiz to everyone:
Welcome all to the AFRALO Operating Principles Review WG Call
10:00:55 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
Silvia's line is breaking up
10:01:02 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
or is this from my end?
10:01:21 From Roberto to Everyone:
I can hear Silvia well
10:02:32 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Welcome all
10:02:58 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Warm Welcome to Roberto Gaetano
10:06:44 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Welcome Daniel to the call
10:12:54 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Questions in the email from Seun to Roberto
10:12:58 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
1. How is that individual determined or selected?

2. Does the individual representative cast a vote during the RALO voting exercise?

3. If yes to 2 above, is the representative free to cast the vote However he wishes or does he cast the vote based on the decision of the collective individual?

4. If it's the latter, how is the collective individual members decision determined? What's the decision making process amongst individual member for that?

5. Does the individuals make other non RALO decisions? If yes how do they get to decide
10:14:01 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
Thanks Silvia
10:15:29 From Sarah to Everyone:
Thank you, Roberto! Very helpful
10:16:01 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Thank you Roberto.
10:16:53 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Welcome Esther Patricia Akello to the call
10:17:06 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
Thanks Roberto
10:17:54 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
Thank you Claudia
10:17:59 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
hello everyone
10:18:29 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
Hello Patricia welcome
10:18:38 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
Thanks
10:22:40 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
EURALO individual users association website: https://individualusers.org/
10:23:34 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
Thanks Roberto
10:29:33 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Welcome Innocent to the call
10:30:25 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
so that means that with or without the vote of individual users a consensus can always be reached.
10:31:55 From DANIEL K. NANGHAKA to Everyone:
Yes, that's right
10:32:27 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
I like Seuns question on reviewing the weight of the individual vote. something Afralo can also consider taking into consideration right from the start
10:32:37 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
@Esther it means that when there is no consensus then they go for voting
10:32:54 From Sarah to Everyone:
Thank you so much, Roberto! This is much appreciated
10:33:05 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
Thanks a lot Roberto
10:33:12 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Thank you very much Roberto for your availability
10:33:14 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
thanks Roberto
10:33:48 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Thank you Roberto. Much appreciated.
10:34:14 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
Thanks seun
10:43:50 From Sarah to Everyone:
How will their representative be selected? And who coordinates them?
10:47:18 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Welcome Michel to the call, we are dialing out to you on FR
10:47:34 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
@Seun, Silvia’s audio is good for me
10:47:36 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
Is the issue from my end, the audio is breaking up
10:47:43 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Would you like a dial out?
10:47:47 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
Ah okay thanks
10:47:52 From Sarah to Everyone:
It’s your end. It’s working well on my end
10:47:59 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
no need for dialout
10:48:01 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
thanks
10:48:33 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Ok, thanks @Seun
10:48:39 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
Thanks Silvia for that suggestion will do it
10:49:03 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
16 individuals
10:49:20 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
https://atlarge.icann.org/individual-members
10:49:37 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
I think it is important to get them to be involved in this discussion
10:50:02 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
They have not been quite responsive when requested to complete surveys etc
10:51:05 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
APRALO practice;
10:51:13 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
27.5.2.8 Selection or ratification of this representative of the unaffiliated individuals will occur whenever a new:
27.5.2.8.1 - APAGM is called.
27.5.2.8.2 An ALAC member is selected by the Regional Membership or Leadership elections are held.
10:52:15 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Staff note Voting procedure: Staff manages the individual’s poll, which is launched simultaneously with the general Big Pulse poll open for all ALs. The results of the individuals vote poll will be added to the general vote poll results with the weight of 1 ALS vote
10:52:21 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
I totally agree with Sarah
10:52:45 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
People always want to be part of and own a process for them to be effectively involved
10:52:53 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
Let the staff coordinate the process
10:53:17 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
the leadership can be co-opted
10:54:06 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
Okay - clear
10:54:19 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
so we cant the current leadership completely out of the process
10:55:02 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
I think its okay for the leadership to do it with individuals as well
10:55:21 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Abdeldjalil dropped, we are dialing him back in
10:56:31 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
We can follow similar process done for ALSes
10:56:35 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
clear now
10:57:26 From Sarah to Everyone:
+1 Abdeljalil. It can even be just for votes
10:59:11 From Sarah to Everyone:
They can coordinate among themselves
11:00:14 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
Wont that complicate the whole process. I think to be more organized there has to be one person known for a specified period to cast the vote for the individual members
11:01:07 From Sarah to Everyone:
So it takes us back to the suggestion of them selecting their leaders
11:01:12 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone:
Regardless of who voted the individual members should always have a representative.
11:01:38 From Sarah to Everyone:
Staff handling the process is the very best option actually
11:02:32 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
@seun we are hearing Abdeldjalil
11:03:54 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
Yes Esther
11:05:56 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Thank you Seun so pending item is to decide who will be the person in charge of casting the votes on behalf of all individuals
11:06:24 From Sarah to Everyone:
Perhaps we can discuss on the mailing list. It was so helpful when we discussed with Roberto on email
11:07:23 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
Thanks All
11:07:49 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
DNS FORUM AFRICA will be also next week
11:08:00 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
doodle
11:08:46 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
DNS Africa is the week of 27th
11:08:49 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
not next week
11:09:03 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
ah ok
11:09:05 From DANIEL K. NANGHAKA to Everyone:
next week is fine
11:09:15 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
seun for thatكد
11:09:24 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
clarification
11:09:36 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Tuesday, Wed or Thursday
11:09:36 From Sarah to Everyone:
Thank you!
11:09:42 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
Thanks well noted
11:09:44 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE CAPDA CMR to Everyone:
Thank alll and bye bye
11:09:48 From Innocent Adriko to Everyone:
Thank you all!